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Re: [BackupPC-users] Block-level rsync-like hashing dd?

2011-04-12 18:53:31
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Block-level rsync-like hashing dd?
From: Timothy J Massey <tmassey AT obscorp DOT com>
To: "General list for user discussion, questions and support" <backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:49:57 -0400
"Jeffrey J. Kosowsky" <backuppc AT kosowsky DOT org> wrote on 04/12/2011 05:20:07 PM:

> Timothy J Massey wrote at about 15:43:28 -0400 on Tuesday, April 12, 2011:
>  > To slightly expand what Les wrote:  there are 4 realistic options (for a
>  > very loose definition of "realistic"):
>  >
>  > 1) rsync the pool.
> As noted many times before, this fails and/or thrashes for large
> archives due to the humongous number of hard links


Yeah, I know.  I've never made it work, either.  Other people jump up and down and claim it *can* work.  What part of "very loose definition of 'realistic'" don't you understand?  :)

>  I think #4 is underappreciated given how cheap hardware is
> nowadays.


It's the only way I do redundancy with my backup servers in production.  Period.

> For the 2nd "backup" version, you can potentially get by
> with less frequent runs say perhaps just 1 full a week. Of course, you
> won't have as granular a series of fulls & incrementals, but since
> this is a reserve backup, you may be satisfied with that. And if not
> then once every longer period of time you can do a bit copy of your
> primary BackupPC partition if you want. I end up using a lowly 1.2GHz
>  Arm CPU plug computer with just 500MB memory and 500 MB flash plus a
> 1TB USB external drive to serve as my 2nd backup.


All of this is an excellent point and I agree with all of it.  I use VIA EPIA systems for full production:  you can't buy slower boxes.  Yet they back up lots of clients.  Some people will say, "But I don't have time to do two full backups a day!"  In that case, what they're really trying to build is a "server proxy".  They then kill themselves running into all kinds of difficulties that they simply would not have if they just used two BackupPC servers.

And if your incremental backups truly fill up the entire backup window, then you have problems:  what happens when (not if) your dataset grows?  In other words, you've put in a crummy solution that *will* fail.  Why not fix it now instead of trying to get clever (read: stupid) with your backups?


> AGREED - this topic has been discussed ad-nauseum on the list to date...


You might sense my frustration...  :(

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