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Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4

2016-05-14 12:09:37
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Status on new BackupPC v4
From: "Ib H. Rasmussen" <ihr AT tdcadsl DOT dk>
To: backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 17:53:46 +0200
On 14-05-2016 13:13, Mauro Condarelli wrote:
> Il 14/05/2016 12:04, Juergen Harms ha scritto:
>> That sounds positive - tres facent collegium - but I doubt whether three
>> is enough as soon as doing succeeds to talking.
> VERY true.
>
>> I see a formal issue: what any future activity will be based on (e.g.
>> the mailing list, the contents at sourcefourge) has been established by
>> predecessors: who are, for instance, the owners of admin passwords of
>> this list?, are some of the old actors still around and ready to get
>> active again once new contributors show up? how to avoid that the
>> initiative that hopefully will get started by this discussion can be
>> mis-interpreted as hijacking? I do not suggest to get lost in
>> mind-scratching, but this should be thought about.
> I did some research and Craig Barrett seems to be Senior Vice President at 
> Google (wireless).
> I doubt he has much time left for BackupPC.
> Contacting him has been unsuccessful, but we could make a last attempt.
>
> He seems to be the only one with write access to Sourceforge Project.
> One strange thing is going to his profile 
> (https://sourceforge.net/u/cbarratt/profile/)
> it seems BackupPC was "Last Updated: 2016-04-20", which is quite recent.
> I was unable to understand what was actually updated.
>
> If someone can contact him and have his blessing that would be a major asset.
> I doubt he would answer (or even read) a mail from a perfect nobody as myself,
> but I will try if none else has better ideas.
>
> There already are several "*backuppc*" projects on github, including a 
> "backuppc/backuppc"
> which seems to be an old and unmaintained mirror of 
> backuppc.cvs.sourceforge.net
> owned by Lars Tobias Skjong-Børsting who seems to be still active on github; 
> we could
> try to contact him and revive this mirror.
> Rationale for this is names *are* important; "backuppc/backuppc"
> sounds much more official than e.g.: "mcondarelli/backuppc" and we need to 
> act as a central
> focus to aggregate whatever is good and usable in the 69 (!) 
> "*backuppc*"projects already
> on github alone.
>
>> Certainly the highest priority is to stabilize the situation, to get the
>> software management issue under control to at least avoid loss of speed.
>> Mauro, if you have the necessary skills, can you, at least at an interim
>> basis, try to get things started? - if you want to delegate specific
>> issues that are just work but dont require GIT expertise, say so!
> I am using git on daily basis for my work, so I shouldn't have problems in 
> that specific
> department.
>
> Highest priority (IMHO) is to get consensus before we actually move.
> To do this we need:
>
>   1. general approval from this list; I would like to hear from most (all?) 
> the regular contributors.
>   2. do a last effort to contact Craig; please note English is *not* my 
> mother language: writing a very short mail to grab Craig attention and 
> convince him to devolve some of his "ample spare time" to this old project 
> might be out of my depth.
>   3. I can try to contact Lars, if the list so decides.
>   4. on freenode is already present a (very quiet) "#backuppc" channel with 
> 26 lurkers. I suggest the interested people to join there so we can really 
> understand how many are willing to help and start taking faster decisions. 
> Model would be BuildRoot: rapid discussion on IRC, announcements on ML, 
> github as a backend (we also use patchwork there, but I do not think it's 
> needed here).
>
>
>>> I am available to the community (i.e.: I could set-up the github account, 
>>> migrating whatever to it, do some patch review, ecc.), but ...
>> Coming back to the "formal" issue: should we ask the members of this
>> mailing list to confirm that this initiative is something that has
>> general support?
> YES.
> I am doing it now.
>
> Pretty pretty please, answer to this mail stating acceptance or disagreement, 
> the latter being *much* more important.
>
>> Concerning what I can contribute: I am 19 years beyond the 60 year
>> milestone - a period where it becomes foolish to promise solid and
> ok, I lost the bet ;)
>
>> sustained help. I have a solid background in perl and C and some areas
>> of Unix tools, but black holes just as solid in others (like samba or
>> using tools like git). Maybe the area best suited to contribute might be
>> documentation, possibly also digging into specific programming issues.
>>
>> Juergen
> Thanks.
>
> Mauro
>
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Although I'm not a contributor, and I don't think i'm cabable of being 
one, I have been using BackupPC for more than 10 years, and i'm 
absolutely for this initiative and i'm looking forward to the success of it.

Thanks Mauro!

Ib Rasmussen
ihr AT tdcadsl DOT dk

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