May I infer then that you have no nodes running recent versions of
windows server?

I realize that it take two to tango, and MS has become prodigious at
shitting the bed with broken WMI writers, SNP bugs, setting the default
VSS provider to whatever a third party product installed last and
providing no way to change it, etc. But I have Windows admins that want
to mass defect back to the 5.3 client as they have the abiding
perception that anything later is crap.

They also complain bitterly of an ASR/BMR restore process that
Machiavelli, Kafka, or Stanslaw Lem would be proud of, and install BESR.
<Filesx/FastBack?>

In fairness to Tivoli, things have been getting better lately. The brand
new algorithm in the 5.5.2.0 client that doesn't take 5 hours to figure
out which SYSTEMSTATE objects to expire is a nice touch.

I'm a fan of TSM, and would fight to keep something like Avamar out. But
there are days when I wouldn't fight very hard.

DB2, Notes, and TSM can be administered on ISC. What a trifecta.

[RC]

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Allen S. Rout
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:09 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM 6.1 Installation Problems

>> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:12:03 -0700, "Clark, Robert A"
<Robert.Clark AT PROVIDENCE DOT ORG> said:


> It seems that many of us have a parental relationship with the 
> product.  In any other case, we would likely have severed the 
> connection some time ago. <Code quality wandering all over, price 
> going up, audits? You think you're a domestic US car maker?>

The marketing nonsense is certainly ridiculous, but I don't think I've
seen the code quality particularly go down.  I'm another one of the
2.1 veterans, and the stability and lack of errors I see in TSM is an
important point in its favor.

Where we see the flighty, erratic behavior is in the layers folks are
trying to paint on top of the product.  The much-maligned ISC, for
example.  Websphere is a joke, so that makes AC on ISC on WS a
triple-decker joke, foisted on us by some Vice President in Tivoli who
has a Vision of Unified Management.


- Allen S. Rout


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