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Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Thanks

2014-03-25 18:30:55
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Fwd: Thanks
From: Kern Sibbald <kern AT sibbald DOT com>
To: WebDawg <webdawg AT hackspherelabs DOT com>, bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:28:23 +0100
On 03/25/2014 07:10 PM, WebDawg wrote:
I would just like to thank the users over at #bacula on freenode for the warm welcome I received yesterday.  Being a completely new user of any Bacula like software, making a quick decision, I installed bareos because from what I read, it had more features and was being developed more. 
Yes, Bareos had more features, because they were developed in secret over a 3 year period, so having more features is not a surprise.  The next version of Bacula, which should be out very soon (a matter of days) will not have all of the features of Bareos, but will have the essential ones in my view (this can be argued), and it will also have quite a number of other smaller features that Bareos doesn't have, though I expect they will quickly take the code.

Is Bareos being developed more?  Absolutely not.  They have a single programmer, plus one other guy who thinks he can program, but the code he has put into Bareos would never make it into Bacula because of its poor quality.  This comment does not apply to the code I wrote, but that they stole from the Enterprise version :-)


Not because I wanted to join the other side. I know I was wrong now.

One thing you can give the Bareos guys credit for is that they are extremely good spin-doctors.  They make it sound like they are a big team and are doing a lot.  If you look at the presentations they have given over the last year, they all talk about the same old features they had a year ago.  How many new big features have they added?

I just thought bareos was a fork but from what I found out today I have crossed the line and do not deserve to walk the planet with the all powerful bacula users. 

I am not aware of exactly what transpired, but from what I can grasp from what you wrote is that you were not treated very well when they heard about Bareos. I am sorry if you were offended, but I probably would have offended you too -- for me it is not very cool for a Bareos user to ask Bacula guys for help -- sorry, but that is my reality.  If that is what happened to you, I guess I have more Bacula friends out there than I had imagined.

Honestly, if I would have had any clue about any of this, I would have chosen bacula.  Being that I did not, on my test box, I went the wrong way.

I get it.  I read the blog posts and now I understand what happened and I get why bareos is hated so much.  Honestly I would not support the software either but when someone comes in asking a simple strait forward question about a config file that is universal across both and gets a big middle finger.  Just feels great.

Before the some users in #bacula found out I was using bareos, it was like we where pals.  Like friends who have not seen each other in a long time.  I miss the old #bacula

As I say, the reaction of the #bacula guys sounds pretty normal to me.  I hope you can understand that some day.

But seriously, honestly after the experience, I may just seek alternative software and methods all together.  Good luck with your civil war.

I don't care how enterprise or functional this shit is.

Good luck with Bareos, you are really going to need it -- even their prized new feature SD-to-SD (now in Bacula 7.0.0) caused their SD to crash, and I personally am aware of at least one other way to crash Bareos.

Best regards,
Kern




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