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Re: NetApp request

2003-06-12 18:05:57
Subject: Re: NetApp request
From: Ashwin Kotian <ashwin_jk AT yahoo DOT com>
To: George Kelbley <kelbley AT cs.unm DOT edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:02:13 -0700 (PDT)
Yes by the "modified dump" program I do mean the perl
scripts & the Netapp hack in sendsize.c

I agree that these scripts & the hack will let you
back up certain directories on the Netapp. But the
trouble starts when the directories you are trying to
backup are greater than 20Gb or so. 

Is it advantageous to shift to "tar" rather than dumps
while backing up Netapp filesystems ? Or maybe I
should look into AMANDA to see if I can continue to
backup smaller filesystems using "dump" & larger
filesystems on Netapp using "tar"

Any inputs ?

Thanks,

Ashwin.

--- George Kelbley <kelbley AT cs.unm DOT edu> wrote:
> Actually, let me begin again.  
> 
> We actually this working on amanda 2.4.1 (I think). 
> The source code for
> amanda-client had to be patched to collect the
> correct estimate, AND you
> had to replace /sbin/dump with the perl script(s),
> and everything
> worked.  When we went to 2.4.2 it broke and we
> didn't get around to
> fixing it.  Now we have a new, larger, filer and the
> project is back
> on.  I've tried letting amanda back up via nfs, but
> it almost always
> fails at some point, the error we get in the
> sendsize debug is "/bin/tar
> cannot create directory"  (or something like that).
> 
> You have to create "devices" for the filer in /dev
> so amanda thinks the
> filer is itself, not another host.  
> 
> my disklist looks like this:
> 
> sherman.cs.unm.edu    /dev/poptart/etc        dump
> 
> sherman is my amanda server, poptart is my NetApp. 
> My entries in /dev/
> are:
> 
> sherman:/dev# ls -l poptart
> total 0
> crw-r--r--    1 root     root       1,   3 Jun 12
> 10:31 etc
> crw-r--r--    1 root     root       1,   3 Jun 12
> 11:43 staff
> 
> If I run dump by hand:
> 
> /sbin/dump 0usf x - /dev/poptart/etc > somefile
> 
> it works fine.
> 
> Running it from amanda fails.
> 
> When you say "modified dump" do you mean the perl
> scripts and
> setuidump.c?
> 
> 
> Ashwin Kotian wrote:
> > 
> > Are you saying that you are able to successfully
> > backup the Netapp without using the modified dump
> > program & using Amanda version earlier than 2.4.4
> ?
> > 
> > If you are successfully able to do so, can you
> send me
> > your disklist for the Netapp part so that I can
> > compare with mine ?
> > 
> > The modified dump program for Netapp works fine
> for
> > smaller directories. But I'm using DDS4 tapes
> (20Gb
> > uncompressed) & my filesystem on the Netapp is
> about
> > 90 Gb, so usually backups for the directories on
> the
> > Netapp that are greater than 20 Gb fail.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ashwin.
> > 
> > --- Frank Smith <fsmith AT hoovers DOT com> wrote:
> > > --On Thursday, June 12, 2003 14:56:18 -0600
> George
> > > Kelbley <kelbley AT cs.unm DOT edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I may be missing something simple here, but,
> we
> > > want to back up a
> > > > Network Appliance using amanda.  2.4.4 seems
> to
> > > have patches to collect
> > > > the correct size, and I installed the perl
> scripts
> > > and dump program that
> > > > I found at
> > > www.xs4all.nl/~johnpc/amanda-netapp-dump-0.1/,
> but
> > > the dump
> > > > script exits with "cannot handle dump", and I
> > > think its because it
> > > > doesn't like the 'S' argument its getting from
> > > amanda.
> > > >
> > > > Since the 2.4.4 code has been patched for a
> > > NetApp, I'm assuming someone
> > > > is actually using it?
> > >
> > > Never tried the ndmp stuff since I started using
> > > Amanda before it was
> > > included, so I NFS-mounted the NetApp
> filesystems on
> > > the backup server
> > > and treat them as local disks.  Probably not
> quite
> > > as fast, especially
> > > if you do client-compress and don't have a lot
> of
> > > CPU on the server, but
> > > it works.
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
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