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[nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or not??

2002-04-12 09:22:39
Subject: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or not??
From: Herman.E.Caballero AT Lowes DOT Com
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:22:39 -0400
Pam,

I just received Netview 7.1.1 for AIX, so can I go ahead and order 7.1.2
right now?

Thanks,

Herman Caballero
Lowe's Companies, Inc.
Communications
336-658-4147


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pam Geiger [SMTP:pgeiger AT us.ibm DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 4:19 PM
> To:   nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
> Cc:   Brad C Peters
> Subject:      Re: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or not??
> 
> Brad,
> 
> NetView 7.1.2 will be available immediately on all of the currently 
> supported NetView platforms, including the windows platforms as well as 
> Linux. The first release of the Switch Analyzer is on AIX and Solaris 
> only. Supporting all of the NetView platforms is high on the list of 
> requirements though and will be shipped in subsequent releases.
> 
> pam
> Pam Geiger
> Tivoli Performance and Availability Evangelist
> pgeiger AT us.ibm DOT com
> 919-224-1665, T/L 687-1665
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> "Brad C Peters" <bcp AT meadwestvaco DOT com>
> 04/11/2002 08:05 AM
> 
>  
>         To:     Pam Geiger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Re: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product
> or not??
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Pam, 
> 
> This all sounds great!  My question is, will Netview 7.1.2 and the Switch 
> Analyzer be available for NT, 2000, or XP.  Everything I have read says 
> AIX and Solaris.  Not much mention of NT.  Is NT still in the strategic 
> future for Netview and TEC? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Brad Peters 
> MeadWestvaco 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> "Pam Geiger" <pgeiger AT us.ibm DOT com> 
> 04/10/2002 05:31 PM 
>         
>         To:        nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com 
>         cc:         
>         Subject:        Re: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product 
> or not??
> 
> 
> 
> Folks, I'd like to jump in on this one to hopefully clarify this a little 
> bit from the NetView perspective. Several things happened in this 
> announcement:
> 
> 1) NetView 390 now comes with integrated TCP/IP services, which as James 
> mentions is distributed NetView for Linux ported to zLinux
> 
> 2) This is the first step in merging TEC and NetView, however NetView WILL
> 
> 
> still be available as a standalone product. The NetView distributed 
> pricing is on a per managed device basis, so once you hit the minimum TEC 
> server purchase price, you will be better off purchasing a TEC license, 
> which includes unlimited network management (integrated TCP/IP services). 
> That will allow you to take advantage of the features of TEC as well as 
> the integration, which will continue to be enhanced moving forward. 
> Integrated TCP/IP services is more than just shipping NetView and TEC, 
> there is some integration provided out of the box . The integration 
> includes contextual launch of the NV console from the TEC console, 
> synchronization so that an event updated in one console will be updated in
> 
> 
> the other and event correlation.  On the NetView side, you'll have the 
> option of using a new event class for the network events. TEC will 
> recognize this new class and TEC rule language has a new capability 
> enabling it to determine if a given IP address included in a system event 
> is on a subnet known to be unreachable, and therefore can pinpoint the 
> network problem as the root cause.   TEC will also include a NetView 
> "intelligence pack" (rule set) to process common NetView events.
> 
> 3) CNAT will be included with TEC , not with NetView
> 
> 4) As Jane mentioned, the IBM Tivoli Switch Analyzer was also included in 
> this announcement. It installs on top on NetView 7.1.2 and provides layer 
> 2 knowledge and root-cause analysis down to the layer 2 level. 
> 
> I hope this helps and doesn't muddy it up even more. Feel free to let me 
> know if you have questions
> 
> Pam
> Pam Geiger
> Tivoli Performance and Availability Evangelist
> pgeiger AT us.ibm DOT com
> 919-224-1665, T/L 687-1665
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> James Shanks/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
> 04/09/2002 04:31 PM
> 
> 
>        To:     nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
>        cc: 
>        Subject:        Re: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product 
> or not??
> 
> 
> 
> There are still two NetViews -- one distributed and one for the mainframe 
> (zOS) but the line gets murkier all the time.
> The zOS  mainframe product now ships with distributed NetView for Linux 
> specially ported to the Suse 7.0 version which runs in a mainframe 
> partition.
> 
> Distributed NetView is merging with TEC.  So yes, beginning with 7.1.2 if 
> you have  a license for one, you will get the other free.  You can bet 
> that in the future there will not be two products.  CNAT is also part of 
> the deal, beginning with 7.1.2.  The product line is consolidating. 
> 
> Your best bet is to follow the links and keep reading.  I like
>        http://www.tivoli.com/products/documents/datasheets/ 
> where you can download the PDF files on the products  myself .
> Also try http://www.tivoli.com/products/solutions/a-z.html
> 
> 
> James Shanks
> Level 3 Support  for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
> Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
> 
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> 
> Jane Curry <jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk>
> 04/09/2002 03:46 PM
> 
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>        To:     NetView mailing list <nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com>, tme10 
> <tme10 AT lists.tivoli DOT com>
>        cc: 
>        Subject:        [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or 
> not??
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on today's announcements re the new Tivoli
> product portfolios and NetView (I mean Distributed NetView here)??
> 
> The Tivoli site only seems to talk about Tivoli NetView as a /390
> product and says that TEC 3.7.1 has network management capability added
> in for distributed platforms:
>  http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/netview/
> 
> The IBM Announcement Letters site has ZP02-0149 which talks about
> NetView 7.1.2 as a new announcement today (though I can't find the
> announcement letter) whereby NetView 7.1.2 is available as a standalone
> product OR as part of TEC 3.7.1.
> 
> ZP02-0115 seems to say that if you have an old product with Tivoli
> Support then you are entitled to migrate to the new product.  Does this
> mean if I have a distributed NetView licence with a support contract, I
> can migrate to TEC 3.7.1?????
> 
> A good piece of news is that there seems to be a new product, IBM Tivoli
> Switch Analyzer, which does "...auto discovery and population of layer 2
> switches" and is available for AIX and Solaris.  It requires TEC 3.7.1
> or NetView 7.1.2 as a pre-req.
> 
> Another good piece of news (but I can only see a 1-liner about it), is
> that TEC 3.7.1 will now support Comprehensive Network Address
> Translation (CNAT).  Does this mean that CNAT is now rolled into NetView
> 7.1.2 which is rolled into TEC 3.7.1???
> 
> Cheers, Jane
> 
> 
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> Copyright (c) 2002 Jane Curry <jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk>.  All 
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