Folks, I'd like to jump in on this one to hopefully clarify this a little
bit from the NetView perspective. Several things happened in this
announcement:
1) NetView 390 now comes with integrated TCP/IP services, which as James
mentions is distributed NetView for Linux ported to zLinux
2) This is the first step in merging TEC and NetView, however NetView WILL
still be available as a standalone product. The NetView distributed
pricing is on a per managed device basis, so once you hit the minimum TEC
server purchase price, you will be better off purchasing a TEC license,
which includes unlimited network management (integrated TCP/IP services).
That will allow you to take advantage of the features of TEC as well as
the integration, which will continue to be enhanced moving forward.
Integrated TCP/IP services is more than just shipping NetView and TEC,
there is some integration provided out of the box . The integration
includes contextual launch of the NV console from the TEC console,
synchronization so that an event updated in one console will be updated in
the other and event correlation. On the NetView side, you'll have the
option of using a new event class for the network events. TEC will
recognize this new class and TEC rule language has a new capability
enabling it to determine if a given IP address included in a system event
is on a subnet known to be unreachable, and therefore can pinpoint the
network problem as the root cause. TEC will also include a NetView
"intelligence pack" (rule set) to process common NetView events.
3) CNAT will be included with TEC , not with NetView
4) As Jane mentioned, the IBM Tivoli Switch Analyzer was also included in
this announcement. It installs on top on NetView 7.1.2 and provides layer
2 knowledge and root-cause analysis down to the layer 2 level.
I hope this helps and doesn't muddy it up even more. Feel free to let me
know if you have questions
Pam
Pam Geiger
Tivoli Performance and Availability Evangelist
pgeiger AT us.ibm DOT com
919-224-1665, T/L 687-1665
James Shanks/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
04/09/2002 04:31 PM
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
cc:
Subject: Re: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or
not??
There are still two NetViews -- one distributed and one for the mainframe
(zOS) but the line gets murkier all the time.
The zOS mainframe product now ships with distributed NetView for Linux
specially ported to the Suse 7.0 version which runs in a mainframe
partition.
Distributed NetView is merging with TEC. So yes, beginning with 7.1.2 if
you have a license for one, you will get the other free. You can bet
that in the future there will not be two products. CNAT is also part of
the deal, beginning with 7.1.2. The product line is consolidating.
Your best bet is to follow the links and keep reading. I like
http://www.tivoli.com/products/documents/datasheets/
where you can download the PDF files on the products myself .
Also try http://www.tivoli.com/products/solutions/a-z.html
James Shanks
Level 3 Support for Tivoli NetView for UNIX and NT
Tivoli Software / IBM Software Group
Jane Curry <jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk>
04/09/2002 03:46 PM
To: NetView mailing list <nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com>, tme10
<tme10 AT lists.tivoli DOT com>
cc:
Subject: [nv-l] IBM Tivoli NetView - is this a product or
not??
Can anyone shed any light on today's announcements re the new Tivoli
product portfolios and NetView (I mean Distributed NetView here)??
The Tivoli site only seems to talk about Tivoli NetView as a /390
product and says that TEC 3.7.1 has network management capability added
in for distributed platforms:
http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/netview/
The IBM Announcement Letters site has ZP02-0149 which talks about
NetView 7.1.2 as a new announcement today (though I can't find the
announcement letter) whereby NetView 7.1.2 is available as a standalone
product OR as part of TEC 3.7.1.
ZP02-0115 seems to say that if you have an old product with Tivoli
Support then you are entitled to migrate to the new product. Does this
mean if I have a distributed NetView licence with a support contract, I
can migrate to TEC 3.7.1?????
A good piece of news is that there seems to be a new product, IBM Tivoli
Switch Analyzer, which does "...auto discovery and population of layer 2
switches" and is available for AIX and Solaris. It requires TEC 3.7.1
or NetView 7.1.2 as a pre-req.
Another good piece of news (but I can only see a 1-liner about it), is
that TEC 3.7.1 will now support Comprehensive Network Address
Translation (CNAT). Does this mean that CNAT is now rolled into NetView
7.1.2 which is rolled into TEC 3.7.1???
Cheers, Jane
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Copyright (c) 2002 Jane Curry <jane.curry AT skills-1st.co DOT uk>. All rights
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