Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula Status

2008-10-06 07:13:08
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula Status
From: Kern Sibbald <kern AT sibbald DOT com>
To: troy.daniels AT itouch.com DOT au
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:05:49 +0200
On Monday 06 October 2008 06:22:51 Troy Daniels wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere (been offline for a week
> or so, so am still catching up on my emails :) )

Yes.

>
> > It is not too late to change the name of the directive, but I would like
> > to see some discussion/input on this.  Although I don't have any strong
> > attachment to "Ignore Dir",  I think I personally prefer it to "Exclude
> > Flag File", which will be harder for me to remember.
>
> I found 'IgnoreDir' to be non intuitive - Looking at it, it initially
> struck me as an option to specify a directory to ignore rather than to
> specify a file to cause a directory to be ignored. ie, Ignore Dir =
> "SVN" would ignore the directory if *it was called* "SVN" not *if it
> contained* a file/dir with that name.
>
> To make it more clearer, maybe one of the following:
>
> Ignore Dir Containing
> Exclude Dir Containing
> Ignore Dir Holding
> Ignore Dir Holding
>
> Using the Exclude* syntax would keep it in line with current Bacula
> naming conventions as well.

Thanks for your comments.

Regards,

Kern

>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Troy Daniels
> Systems Admin.
> iTouch Australia,
> a Buongiorno Company.
>
> > Comments?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >
> > On Friday 03 October 2008 19:19:07 Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
> > > * Dan Langille schrieb am 02.10.08 um 23:02 Uhr:
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > > > On Oct 2, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Marc Schiffbauer wrote:
> > > > >Ignore Dir
> > > > >
> > > > >A note on whether this directive works recursive or not
> > > > >would be fine.
> > > >
> > > > Recursive?
> > > >
> > > > As in 'ignore this directory' but take all its children?
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, that's not an ignore.  ;)
> > >
> > > Full ack, but just to be 100% sure ;)
> > >
> > > > Point taken though.  It reduces the number of questions.
> > >
> > > yes, thanks.
> > >
> > > > But regardless, if people are so inclined, hunting down the text
> > > > and supplying a patch helps a great deal.
> > >
> > > Yes, I used to do that. Sorry that I did not this time.
> > >
> > > > >(And I personally would find "Exclude Flag File" more intuitive as
> > > > >"Exclude" is the bacula terminology to to ignore files or
> > > > >directories...)
> > > >
> > > > FWIW, you can name the file anything you want.
> > >
> > > I did not mean the value of the directive but the name of the
> > > directive itself.
> > >
> > > Everywhere in the FileSet in Bacula you use the word "Exclude" when
> > > dealing with files that will not be backed up. So I suggest to
> > > follow this terminology instead of introducing a synonym.
> > > I think this will increase usability.
> > >
> > > So I think
> > >
> > >   Exclude Flag File = .no_backup
> > >
> > > would be more intuitive about what it does than
> > >
> > >   Ignore Dir = .no_backup
> > >
> > >
> > > Also I think because of using the word 'Dir' many people would expect
> > > this to be a directory which will be ignored and will try something
> > > like this:
> > >
> > >   Ignore Dir = /tmp
> > >
> > > will will be nonsense of course ;)
> > >
> > > -Marc
> >
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