Re: [BackupPC-users] Need help with automating Windows client deployment

And that's why I advise my clients to close their Microsoft Lookout when 
they go for the evening.

On 12/20/2010 2:33 PM, hansbkk AT gmail DOT com wrote:
> Nothing will properly handle backing up files currently being written
> to during the backup session without inserting itself somewhere
> between the OS and the disk/controller hardware.
>
> COTS "hot imaging" programs (Symantec's (recent versions of) Ghost and
> BackupExec System Recovery are examples) do this pretty reliably now,
> but they create large monolithic disk image files that don't take
> advantage of BackupPC's magical file deduping.
>
> I handle this by making sure that always-on apps like Outlook (and in
> your case SQL servers) store their files to the OS/apps partition -
> and these get backed up separately from the regular data files, via CD
> or PXE boot allowing a proper "cold" imaging backup. With decent
> network bandwidth and good automation, most clients can get backed up
> in a 20-30 minute session - I do this weekly, and each user knows
> which day of the week they're supposed to do it - most set the session
> running and get their coffee first thing in the morning.
>
> An alternative would be having such apps storing their data on
> filesystems with snapshot capabilities, e.g. LVM on a Linux server.
>
> I realize that none of these approaches are easy or inexpensive, but
> AFAIK that's the nature of the beast.
>
> Whatever path you take, make sure to test it thoroughly with realistic
> scenarios.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Ryan Blake<rblake3 AT hotmail DOT com>  
> wrote:
>> That sounds simple enough and something I found initially when doing my
>> research.  However, I do not believe this also can handle open files, such
>> as Outlook's .pst files or other documents open by the user, such as system
>> files.  I want to be able to back up all of these files without the end-user
>> having to actually do anything on their part and being able to remotely
>> install the software.  End result: I want to be able to restore the entire
>> OS just as it was the moment it was backed up.
>>
>> Maybe I'm mistaken, though.  Will this option backup open files as well
>> (including the ubiquitous Outlook data files)?  If not, what options do I
>> have to do this?   It seemed so much easier working with rsyncd on *nix...
>> From: Rob Poe
>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:32 PM
>> To: General list for user discussion,questions and support
>> Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Need help with automating Windows client
>> deployments&  handling the file lock backup problem with open files
>> Personally, I use a batch file to install the client.  You have to configure
>> the rsyncd.conf and rsyncd.secrets
>>
>> Using this download:
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/backuppc/files/cygwin-rsyncd/2.6.8_0/
>> and these instructions:
>> http://gerwick.ucsd.edu/backuppc_manual/backuppc_winxp.html
>>
>>
>> @echo off
>> c:
>> md c:\rsyncd
>> net use x: \\server\utils
>> xcopy x:\rsyncd\*.* c:\rsyncd\*.* /Y
>> c:
>> cd \rsyncd
>> cygrunsrv.exe -I rsyncd -e CYGWIN=nontsec -p c:/rsyncd/rsync.exe -a
>> "--config=c:/rsyncd/rsyncd.conf --daemon --no-detach"
>> cygrunsrv.exe --start rsyncd
>>
>> rem Les Stott notes you can setup the WinXP firewall to allow
>> rem port 873 TCP connections to rsync with the following script
>> rem lines.  Remove the rem lines to run these three commands.
>> rem
>> rem netsh firewall set allowedprogram program = c:\rsyncd\rsync.exe name =
>> rsync mode = enable scope = CUSTOM addresses = LocalSubnet
>> rem netsh firewall set portopening protocol = TCP port = 873 name = rsyncd
>> mode= enable scope = CUSTOM addresses = LocalSubnet
>> rem netsh firewall set icmpsetting 8 enable
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ultimately, I am trying to automate the update process to end-users as much
>> as possible (which is why I used smb to start with).  I'm looking for
>> something I can remotely install and have backup all directories, including
>> those currently locked and also including live Microsoft SQL databases
>> without the bandwidth cost of SMB and while backing up open files (I
>> essentially want a backup good enough that I can use to restore the entire
>> "system state," which includes active system files).  I know from my
>> previous experience, I was able to successfully backup a MySQL database on
>> Linux and restore it when the entire database was "accidentally" deleted.  I
>> just am not too confident with Windows and how to do this properly while the
>> DB is still running.
>>
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Re: [BackupPC-users] Need help with automating Windows client deployments & handling the file lock backup problem with open files
