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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula 3.0.3 maintain ctime on restored files?

2010-01-14 17:27:05
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] bacula 3.0.3 maintain ctime on restored files?
From: Dan Langille <dan AT langille DOT org>
To: Steve Costaras <stevecs AT chaven DOT com>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:24:05 -0500
Steve Costaras wrote:
> 
> On 01/14/2010 15:59, Dan Langille wrote:
>> Steve Costaras wrote:
>>
>>> I see the mtimeonly flag in the fileset options but there are many
>>> caveats about using it as you will miss other files that may have been
>>> copied over that have retained mtimes from before the last backup.
>>> Since bacula does an MD5/SHA1 hash of all files I assumed (wrongly it
>>> seems) that it would be smart enough to not back up files that it
>>> already had backed up and are on tape.
>> Smart enough?  Sheesh.  ;)
>>
>> That hash is to ensure the file is restored properly.  And for 
>> verfication.  To do what you want is not easy.
>>
>> How big of a problem is this for you?
>>
>> Have you looked into the Virtual Backups, although I'm not sure this 
>> would help you.
> 
> :)  Well I figured it would be relatively easy as an option (since the 
> hash is in the database and when a file is read from disk for backup 
> (since it's planning on backing it up anyway it would need to read the 
> file, if the file name & hash match those that are in the database the 
> file could be skipped.   (for 'real' completeness and to keep in line w/ 
> the accurate option perhaps update the database with permissions et al 
> on the inode but since the content matches that would save a lot of tapes).

In the database... not on the client.  That's the issue.  Let us not 
discuss this here.  It is not a trivial problem to do correctly.

> In the case here it's rather a large issue (granted due to other 
> problems like hardware or software issues that require restores of data 
> and is NOT something that I want to continue, however we are living in 
> an imperfect world) but to give you an idea the dataset size is about 
> 30-40TiB with restores anywhere from 2TiB to a full restore to back that 
> back up again not only takes a LOT of tapes which is costly it also 
> takes a LOT of time (day/weeks) where nothing else can be run.
> 
> What I have been doing which is just painful is do a full restore, then 
> have to do a full backup right after then continue so a restore is 
> actually the time of about 2x of a full.  (for a full set this is about 
> 9-10 days on LTO4).   This has happened about 3 times so far in the past 
> 2 months.

I would start a new thread.  How to avoid backing up restored files.

This one has gone its course.

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