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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Sun's incompetence

2009-12-01 12:03:12
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Sun's incompetence
From: Kern Sibbald <kern AT sibbald DOT com>
To: bacula-devel AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 18:01:40 +0100
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 17:46:48 Robert Hartzell wrote:
> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 December 2009 17:15:40 Phil Stracchino wrote:
> >> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 01 December 2009 16:31:45 Robert Hartzell wrote:
> >>>> Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >>>>> Recently I tried loading OpenSolaris in a VM, and I discovered that
> >>>>> they somehow have remained frozen in time in 1998 and had not
> >>>>> significantly improved their user interface -- a big disappointment
> >>>>> for me.  I ended up with a default system that had a Java user
> >>>>> interface and a /home/kern that was read-only (can you imagine that
> >>>>> by default your home directory is read-only?).  I finally gave up.
> >>>>
> >>>> What do you mean by "Java user interface"? Opensolaris is currently
> >>>> using Gnome Desktop version 2.28.0
> >>>
> >>> That surprised me too.  It was a full Java user interface, and all I
> >>> did was about 6 months ago install an OpenSolaris.  It is possible that
> >>> they gave me the choice between two user interfaces and I made the bad
> >>> choice.
> >>
> >> "Java Desktop" is what Sun is calling their Gnome-based desktop, afaik.
> >>  They do offer two interface choices out of the box: the Gnome "Java
> >> Desktop", or CDE.  Much though I detest Gnome, it's the more usable of
> >> the two.
> >
> > Hmmm.  That sounds like what I saw. I vaguely remember trying CDE, but it
> > was too different, so I chose the Gnome desktop, which like you I don't
> > particularly like, but I can work with it.  However, Gnome running under
> > or implemented in Java makes it *much* slower and nothing like what I
> > would call a "normal"  Gnome desktop running under X Window.
>
> Everything described here sounds exactly like Solaris 10 and nothing
> like Opensolaris... Are you sure it was Opensolaris that you tried?

Uh, no, I am not sure.  I downloaded an ISO from the Sun site, and booted it.

Hmmm.  The image is:  sol-10-u5-ga-x86-dvd.iso

so it does look like I was dealing with Solaris rather than OpenSolaris.

Kern

>
> > Oh, well.  I guess if I try again, it isn't going to be any better than
> > what I already saw.  Sun has a really nice, stable OS, with ZFS.  Too bad
> > they cannot publish a modern GUI -- even their old Sun Windows was better
> > looking than what I saw.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kern
> >
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