John:
I took Mike's advice, but instead of looking at Enduser
GUI, I went right to the registry entry. There should
be no space between the CLASS: and the classname.
example:
In my reg entry that was failing I had the following
CLASS: LVL_Server
the proper representation should have been
CLASS:LVL_Server
I made this change and the exclude list now functions
properly.
Thanks Mike for the heads up.
David Chapa
Quoting John_Wang AT enron DOT net:
>
>
> Hello David
>
> Same thing here, when I establish a class and
schedule exclude list to
> exclude
> all and then a like class and schedule include list
to include the *.nsf
> files
> back, I get everything backed up anyway. I think
it's my usage of the
> syntax
> ":\" to represent all local drives which would be the
syntax in the Class
> file
> specification. On the assumption that they are
inconsistent with their
> syntax
> use, I'm changing my exclude lists to be "c:\" "d:\"
and "e:\" and seeing
> if
> it's any better tonight.
>
> Another interesting point, if I run a full backup of
only specific included
> files and then subsequently run a differential of all
files except those
> same
> files, I get almost nothing in the differential. So
it would seem that
> the
> various incrementals are disrespective of the
coverage.
>
> Regards,
> John I Wang
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Steverson Information Professionals
>
> ---
> Enron Broadband Services
> 3 Allen Center 3AC872e
> ph (713) 345-6863
>
>
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> | cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu,
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> | Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule
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>
> Interestingly enough I have created the exclude list
from both the server
> and
> the client with no success. Perhaps I'll remove
everything from the
> client's
> GUI and try it again.
>
> I have opened a case for this, hopefully the support
engineer will give me
> as
> much or more information as you have.
>
> thank you
>
> david
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Traves [mailto:mtraves.news AT home DOT com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:14 PM
> To: David A. Chapa; John_Wang AT enron DOT net
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file
exclusions
>
>
> David;
>
> This is a "known" bug with 3.4 NBU on NT -- when
configuring exclude lists
> for specific Classes and Schedules (as opposed to the
client) using the NT
> Admin Client's "Configure NetBackup" screen, a
*space* is added in front of
> the Class name. This space isn't viewable from the
GUI, but as it no
> longer
> matches the class name you've configured, it doesn't
get processed.
>
> The trick is to configure exclude lists from the
*Client's* GUI, not the
> Admin GUI. You can remove the space for the Class
name you created
> previously here, or add an exclude list for a class
properly. Note, that
> the Client GUI's way of moving between multiple
exclude lists is rather
> cumbersome and unintuitive (ie, hit add first, then
click previous a few
> times to see your existing exclude lists).
>
>
> Michael Traves
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David A. Chapa" <david AT datastaff DOT com>
> To: <John_Wang AT enron DOT net>
> Cc: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file
exclusions
>
>
> > Well, yes similar, remember its done from the NT
GUI. When you open it
> up
> > you will see the Exclude tab, Include tab, Servers,
etc.
> >
> > >>if I exclude a directory locally but files in
that directory are
> > >>matched by the Class file specification, will it
get backed up?
> >
> > No they will not get backed up (at least they
shouldn't, I'm fighting an
> NT
> > 3.4 exclude problem right now as a matter of fact).
> >
> > For instance, one of my clients has a HUGE
directory on one of their data
> > servers, it is so large that we have to 'chunk' it
up into multiple
> streams
> > (NEW_STREAM, etc.). That works just fine, however,
when the Normal class
> > does the "regular" backups, it is supposed to
exclude that HUGE
> directory.
> > Unfortunately for me and my client it isn't working
that way, which is a
> bit
> > troublesome.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John_Wang AT enron DOT net
[mailto:John_Wang AT enron DOT net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:50 PM
> > To: david AT datastaff DOT com
> > Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file
exclusions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello David
> >
> > So what's the syntax for providing the class and
schedule specification?
> > Would
> > it be something like:
> >
> > NT-Mail.OS-Only *.nsf
> >
> > The second part of the question was what the
relationship between the
> file
> > specification on the master server and the
include/exclude list on the
> > client.
> > That is, if I exclude a directory locally but files
in that directory are
> > matched by the Class file specification, will it
get backed up? I get
> the
> > impression that the class file specification is
more for multi-streaming
> > definition than for file exclusion.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John I Wang
> > Sr. Systems Engineer
> > Steverson Information Professionals
> >
> > ---
> > Enron Broadband Services
> > 3 Allen Center 3AC872e
> > ph (713) 345-6863
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > |--------+----------------------->
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> > | | ff.com |
> > | | |
> > | | 12/12/00 |
> > | | 02:38 PM |
> > | | |
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> >
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> > |
> |
> > | To: John Wang/Contractor/Enron
Communications@Enron
> |
> > | Communications, veritas-
bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> |
> > | cc:
> |
> > | Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule
specific file exclusions
> |
> >
> >-----------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
> > The exclude and include lists are now held in the
NT registry. This
> needs
> > to be modified either on the local machine using
the Netbackup User
> > Interface or from an NT Administrative client
machine.
> >
> > In either case, you supply the class name and or
schedule for the exclude
> > list (supplying none will make the exclude global
for all NBU classes).
> >
> > Next you will supply the list you wish to exclude.
The manual does give
> you
> > valid NT wild cards and examples you can use.
However, if you want to
> > exclude just the *.nsf files, then simply put that
in the file list for
> any
> > *nsf files.
> >
> > I don't think I understand the second part of your
question.
> >
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-admin AT Eng.Auburn DOT EDU
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT Eng.Auburn DOT EDU]On Behalf
Of John_Wang AT enron DOT net
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 2:23 PM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file
exclusions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > OK, I can't quite figure this one out. I have NT
based mail servers
> > running
> > Lotus notes, I'd like to set up schedules that
would back up everything
> > except
> > the *.nsf files which are the users mail folders
and I'd like to set up a
> > schedule that only backs up the *.nsf files so that
I can direct the
> backups
> > to
> > different volume pools with different retention
periods. The class and
> > schedule specific instructions in the
Administrators Guide seems to be
> for
> > Unix
> > clients where simply creating files named
> > /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude_list.CLASS.SCHEDULE
suffices. How would
> this
> > be
> > done in Windows NT or Windows 2000?
> >
> > Also, the manual is quite clear that files in the
client's local
> inclusion
> > list
> > gets added back in even if excluded by the client's
local exclusion list.
> > How
> > do these two lists relate with the Files
specification on the class? Can
> > file
> > exclusions be specified in the class Files
specification?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John I Wang
> > Sr. Systems Engineer
> > Steverson Information Professionals
> >
> > ---
> > Enron Broadband Services
> > 3 Allen Center 3AC872e
> > ph (713) 345-6863
> >
> >
> >
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