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[Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions

2000-12-13 11:46:36
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions
From: John_Wang AT enron DOT net John_Wang AT enron DOT net
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 10:46:36 -0600
Hello Bill

Thanks for the warning.

Although I'm certain we paid for the Lotus Notes option (I think we paid over $2
million for our site license), I have yet to find the Lotus Notes options manual
referenced by the S.A.G. so I am not currently using it.   Actually I'm not sure
if we're using it or not since I was contracted to transition their evaluation
into production and they had already set up a fair bit of backups already.

Regards,
John I Wang
Sr. Systems Engineer
Steverson Information Professionals

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Be careful, if you are using the Lotus Notes extension for NBU, the first
thing is does is disable the exclude file list (as well as OTM and
Viruscan).


Bill Wiessner
VERITAS Software <http://www.veritas.com/>
SE DOD Intel
Office:  410-877-7689
Cell:     410-804-3321



                     -----Original Message-----
                     From:          David A. Chapa [mailto:david AT datastaff 
DOT com]
                     Sent:          Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:13 PM
                     To:       John_Wang AT enron DOT net
                     Cc:       veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                     Subject:       RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file
exclusions

                     Well, yes similar, remember its done from the NT GUI.  When
you open it up
                     you will see the Exclude tab, Include tab, Servers, etc.

                     >>if I exclude a directory locally but files in that
directory are
                     >>matched by the Class file specification, will it get
backed up?

                     No they will not get backed up (at least they shouldn't,
I'm
fighting an NT
                     3.4 exclude problem right now as a matter of fact).

                     For instance, one of my clients has a HUGE directory on one
of their data
                     servers, it is so large that we have to 'chunk' it up into
multiple streams
                     (NEW_STREAM, etc.). That works just fine, however, when the
Normal class
                     does the "regular" backups, it is supposed to exclude that
HUGE directory.
                     Unfortunately for me and my client it isn't working that
way, which is a bit
                     troublesome.

                     David


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                     From: John_Wang AT enron DOT net [mailto:John_Wang AT 
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                     To: david AT datastaff DOT com
                     Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
                     Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions




                     Hello David

                     So what's the syntax for providing the class and schedule
specification?
                     Would
                     it be something like:

                          NT-Mail.OS-Only     *.nsf

                     The second part of the question was what the relationship
between the file
                     specification on the master server and the include/exclude
list on the
                     client.
                     That is, if I exclude a directory locally but files in that
directory are
                     matched by the Class file specification, will it get backed
up?   I get the
                     impression that the class file specification is more for
multi-streaming
                     definition than for file exclusion.

                     Regards,
                     John I Wang
                     Sr. Systems Engineer
                     Steverson Information Professionals

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                     The exclude and include lists are now held in the NT
registry.  This needs
                     to be modified either on the local machine using the
Netbackup User
                     Interface or from an NT Administrative client machine.

                     In either case, you supply the class name and or schedule
for the exclude
                     list (supplying none will make the exclude global for all
NBU classes).

                     Next you will supply the list you wish to exclude.  The
manual does give you
                     valid NT wild cards and examples you can use.   However, if
you want to
                     exclude just the *.nsf files, then simply put that in the
file list for any
                     *nsf files.

                     I don't think I understand the second part of your
question.

                     David

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                     Subject: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions




                     Hello

                     OK, I can't quite figure this one out.   I have NT based
mail servers
                     running
                     Lotus notes,   I'd like to set up schedules that would back
up everything
                     except
                     the *.nsf files which are the users mail folders and I'd
like to set up a
                     schedule that only backs up the *.nsf files so that I can
direct the backups
                     to
                     different volume pools with different retention periods.
The class and
                     schedule specific instructions in the Administrators Guide
seems to be for
                     Unix
                     clients where simply creating files named
                     /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude_list.CLASS.SCHEDULE suffices.
How would this
                     be
                     done in Windows NT or Windows 2000?

                     Also, the manual is quite clear that files in the client's
local inclusion
                     list
                     gets added back in even if excluded by the client's local
exclusion list.
                     How
                     do these two lists relate with the Files specification on
the class?  Can
                     file
                     exclusions be specified in the class Files specification?

                     Regards,
                     John I Wang
                     Sr. Systems Engineer
                     Steverson Information Professionals

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                     3 Allen Center 3AC872e
                     ph (713) 345-6863



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