Hello
An interesting thing is that if you put "C:\" in the exclusion list on the NT
netbackup client, then exit out of the Configure panel and re-enter, it will
have changed the "C:\" to "C:\VERITAS\Netbackup". I'm trying "C:\*" this time.
Regards,
John I Wang
Sr. Systems Engineer
Steverson Information Professionals
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Hello David
Same thing here, when I establish a class and schedule exclude list to exclude
all and then a like class and schedule include list to include the *.nsf files
back, I get everything backed up anyway. I think it's my usage of the syntax
":\" to represent all local drives which would be the syntax in the Class file
specification. On the assumption that they are inconsistent with their syntax
use, I'm changing my exclude lists to be "c:\" "d:\" and "e:\" and seeing if
it's any better tonight.
Another interesting point, if I run a full backup of only specific included
files and then subsequently run a differential of all files except those same
files, I get almost nothing in the differential. So it would seem that the
various incrementals are disrespective of the coverage.
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John I Wang
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Interestingly enough I have created the exclude list from both the server and
the client with no success. Perhaps I'll remove everything from the client's
GUI and try it again.
I have opened a case for this, hopefully the support engineer will give me as
much or more information as you have.
thank you
david
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Traves [mailto:mtraves.news AT home DOT com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:14 PM
To: David A. Chapa; John_Wang AT enron DOT net
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions
David;
This is a "known" bug with 3.4 NBU on NT -- when configuring exclude lists
for specific Classes and Schedules (as opposed to the client) using the NT
Admin Client's "Configure NetBackup" screen, a *space* is added in front of
the Class name. This space isn't viewable from the GUI, but as it no longer
matches the class name you've configured, it doesn't get processed.
The trick is to configure exclude lists from the *Client's* GUI, not the
Admin GUI. You can remove the space for the Class name you created
previously here, or add an exclude list for a class properly. Note, that
the Client GUI's way of moving between multiple exclude lists is rather
cumbersome and unintuitive (ie, hit add first, then click previous a few
times to see your existing exclude lists).
Michael Traves
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From: "David A. Chapa" <david AT datastaff DOT com>
To: <John_Wang AT enron DOT net>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions
> Well, yes similar, remember its done from the NT GUI. When you open it up
> you will see the Exclude tab, Include tab, Servers, etc.
>
> >>if I exclude a directory locally but files in that directory are
> >>matched by the Class file specification, will it get backed up?
>
> No they will not get backed up (at least they shouldn't, I'm fighting an
NT
> 3.4 exclude problem right now as a matter of fact).
>
> For instance, one of my clients has a HUGE directory on one of their data
> servers, it is so large that we have to 'chunk' it up into multiple
streams
> (NEW_STREAM, etc.). That works just fine, however, when the Normal class
> does the "regular" backups, it is supposed to exclude that HUGE directory.
> Unfortunately for me and my client it isn't working that way, which is a
bit
> troublesome.
>
> David
>
>
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> To: david AT datastaff DOT com
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>
> Hello David
>
> So what's the syntax for providing the class and schedule specification?
> Would
> it be something like:
>
> NT-Mail.OS-Only *.nsf
>
> The second part of the question was what the relationship between the file
> specification on the master server and the include/exclude list on the
> client.
> That is, if I exclude a directory locally but files in that directory are
> matched by the Class file specification, will it get backed up? I get
the
> impression that the class file specification is more for multi-streaming
> definition than for file exclusion.
>
> Regards,
> John I Wang
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Steverson Information Professionals
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>
> The exclude and include lists are now held in the NT registry. This needs
> to be modified either on the local machine using the Netbackup User
> Interface or from an NT Administrative client machine.
>
> In either case, you supply the class name and or schedule for the exclude
> list (supplying none will make the exclude global for all NBU classes).
>
> Next you will supply the list you wish to exclude. The manual does give
you
> valid NT wild cards and examples you can use. However, if you want to
> exclude just the *.nsf files, then simply put that in the file list for
any
> *nsf files.
>
> I don't think I understand the second part of your question.
>
> David
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> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Schedule specific file exclusions
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>
> Hello
>
> OK, I can't quite figure this one out. I have NT based mail servers
> running
> Lotus notes, I'd like to set up schedules that would back up everything
> except
> the *.nsf files which are the users mail folders and I'd like to set up a
> schedule that only backs up the *.nsf files so that I can direct the
backups
> to
> different volume pools with different retention periods. The class and
> schedule specific instructions in the Administrators Guide seems to be for
> Unix
> clients where simply creating files named
> /usr/openv/netbackup/exclude_list.CLASS.SCHEDULE suffices. How would
this
> be
> done in Windows NT or Windows 2000?
>
> Also, the manual is quite clear that files in the client's local inclusion
> list
> gets added back in even if excluded by the client's local exclusion list.
> How
> do these two lists relate with the Files specification on the class? Can
> file
> exclusions be specified in the class Files specification?
>
> Regards,
> John I Wang
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Steverson Information Professionals
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