Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula in Ubuntu 8.04 without TLS?

2008-08-20 04:34:41
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula in Ubuntu 8.04 without TLS?
From: Philipp Geschke <bacula AT pgmail DOT net>
To: Ryan Novosielski <novosirj AT umdnj DOT edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:31:03 +0200
Hi,

Ryan Novosielski schrieb:
> Dan Langille wrote:
>> Landon Fuller wrote:
>>> On Aug 18, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Philipp Geschke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody confirm that Ubuntu seriously compiled Bacula in 8.04 
>>>> without TLS after having it enabled in 7.10?
>>>>
>>>> Or am I just being dumb?
>>> Debian upstream disabled it:
>>>
>>> README.Debian:
>>>     bacula (2.2.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
>>>
>>>     * SSL/TLS has been disabled in this version of Bacula due to licensing
>>>      concerns.  See README.Debian and the thread at
>>>      http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/07/msg00144.html for more
>>>      details.
>>>
>>> NEWS.Debian
>>>     Due to licensing concerns (see NEWS.Debian), SSL/TLS is disabled in 
>>> current
>>>     Debian builds.  This disables both encryption for the on-the-wire
>>>     protocol as well as encryption of the backed-up data.
>>>
>>> Kern specifically allows linking against OpenSSL in the Bacula, and has 
>>> removed any GPL code that can not contain this exception:
>>>     As a special exception to the GPLv2, the Bacula Project gives
>>>     permission to link the code of its release of Bacula with the OpenSSL
>>>     project's "OpenSSL" library (or with modified versions of it that use
>>>     the same license as the "OpenSSL" library), and distribute the linked
>>>     executables.  You must obey the GNU General Public License in all
>>>     respects for all of the code used other than "OpenSSL".
>>>
>>> I guess Debian considers the OpenSSL license and the GPL license 
>>> incompatible, and removed support prior to Kern's changes.
>>> The whole issue is a bit droll.
>> This is why I like packaging systems which allow you to compile from source.
> 
> All of them do, no? You certainly can with Debian packages anyhow.
> 

At least apt / dpkg let's you install the sources for self-compiling.

I'm trying hard not to comment on what I think about this issue, to keep this 
thread from becoming a flamewar on licenses.

So, from the practical aspect of this, I understand Kern removed all 3rd party 
code that was involved in this issue and changed the license, hence the issue 
is removed?
Can I expect Bacula packages to be compiled with OpenSSL and / or gnutls 
support in future Debian / Debian based distributions (e.g. Lenny or Ubuntu 
8.10)?

My problem is, that I am running quite a few systems with different os on them 
and am not really willing to compile bacula-fd on each system, but if that is, 
what it takes to run bacula, then of course I'll do so (better than considering 
zmanda) ;-)


Cheers,
Philipp


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