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Re: [BackupPC-users] MOTD breaking rsync...

2010-09-21 03:01:42
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] MOTD breaking rsync...
From: Cesar Kawar <kawarmc AT gmail DOT com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 08:59:12 +0200
I can't believe what i've read.

Go but whatever you like, and make sure it is a comercial software.  
Please, don't forget to pay for the support, this is quite important  
in your case. You need some you can call on the phone and tell them  
they don't know what they're doing.

Please, go now, before you get another Mail from this list, it could  
hurt you really bad.



  iPhone

El 21/09/2010, a las 01:52, RC <cooleyr AT gmail DOT com> escribió:

> Jon Craig <cannedspam.cant <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Maybe you better explain what you know and what you've tried so we  
>> are
>> not forced to
>> go over ground you may already have covered.
>
>> Your very first post calls BackupPC's methods fragile and complains  
>> about a
>> documented requirement of the login process.
>
> There's no question RsyncP is fragile, hence the problem I reported  
> (that rsync
> does not exhibit).  Since it's clear no-one here wants bug-reports,  
> I wont
> provide any more.
>
>> Maybe my education is lacking.  Could you explain to me how rsync
>> avoids checksumming the entire filesystem without using file
>> timestamps to include / exclude files and how backuppc's
>> full/incremental behaves differently.
>
> After running the first (full) backup, you can use --link-dest= 
> $LAST_FOLDER to
> only update the files which have changed (size & timestamp) and just  
> linking all
> others (ala IncrFill=1).  You can do this, indefinitely.  You do not  
> need to
> re-checksum everything the next week.
>
> Add to this checksums of a small percentage of file on each run (ala
> RsyncCsumCacheVerifyProb) to verify nothing bad is happening, and  
> you should be
> quite secure.
>
>
>> I have been offering those solutions short of a rewrite of the
>> application.  Are you living with specific security requirements? Did
>> you try setting rsync and the login shell?  What result?  Are you
>> considering setup of VPN?
>
> I've pointed out a bug in RsyncP.  Fixing it does not require a  
> rewrite of any
> applications.  Since nobody here has expressed any interest, it  
> looks like I'll
> end up doing it on my own.
>
> I am not considering any more workarounds.  I can think of a few,  
> but all are
> invasive and complex.  I didn't try changing root's login shell to  
> rsync,
> because I know it won't work.  Ditto for the .hushlogin suggestion,  
> but I did it
> anyhow, because that was extremely quick to test.  Setting up rsyncd  
> and a VPN
> for numerous systems would be a huge waste of time, and sure to  
> result in added
> administration down the road.  Either I'll fix RsyncP myself, or  
> because of this
> and other limitations, (the most significant of which I have  
> outlined) we might
> opt to not roll-out BackupPC at all, and use either commercial  
> options, or
> in-house automation of rsync.
>
>> If the only thing your willing to live with is a rewrite of the  
>> entire
>> system so that it behaves in a way you "believe" it can and should  
>> then
>> I for one am done.
>
> I appreciate your attempts to help, and really don't mind them  
> intermingled with
> hostility and insults.  However, since I've sunk plenty of time into  
> this list,
> and not gotten the least bit of new information, I'll call this  
> thread "done"
> myself.  My time could have been, and now will be, much better spent.
>
>
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