RE: moved to new disk, now amanda wants to do level 0's on whole system
2003-11-17 00:22:58
Sun's tar used to have a bug where it wouldn't copy more than like 25 levels
of directories. I first ran across this under SunOS but heard that as of
about Solaris 2.6 the bug is gone. YMMV
Dana Bourgeois
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
> [mailto:owner-amanda-users AT amanda DOT org] On Behalf Of Eric Siegerman
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:08 PM
> To: amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
> Subject: Re: moved to new disk, now amanda wants to do level
> 0's on whole system
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:20:23AM -0500, Jay Fenlason wrote:
> > Also, cp/fr may not have correctly reset the modification
> times of the
> > files when it copied them. Oh, and they may not handle links well
> > either. To copy directory trees, I usually use "( cd
> /fromdir ; tar
> > cf - . ) | ( cd /todir ; tar xpf -)", which preserves modification
> > times, and permissions.
>
> I've had problems with tar, too. Unfortunately, that was so
> long ago that I forget what they were. Maybe it stores only
> mtime in the tarball, and on extraction sets both mtime and
> atime to the saved mtime value. Oh, and I think it likes to
> (try to) copy the contents of special files, FIFOs, and the
> like, instead of recreating them in the destination tree.
>
> Until recently, I used the cpio variant of your suggestion:
> cd /fromdir
> find . -depth -print0 | cpio -padmu0 /todir
> (You need GNU find and cpio for the "0" part to work. -depth
> is to get the directories' mtimes copied properly. It makes
> each directory come *after* its contents in the file listing.
> Without -depth, the directory would come first; cpio would
> properly set its mtime, and then stomp on it by creating the
> directory's
> contents.)
>
> But then I discovered rsync. Rsync rocks. "rsync -aH"
> copies everything the kernel lets you copy (i.e. not ctimes,
> and not inumbers). The only problem with rsync is the weird
> way it gives meaning to a trailing slash; these two are *not*
> equivalent:
> rsync -aH srcdir/ destdir
> rsync -aH srcdir destdir
>
> Then again, I'm not sure whether either cpio or rsync can
> deal with a username that's changed its numerical userid, or
> similarly for groups. I think some tar's can. Or maybe it's
> cpio that can handle that; can't remember. And gtar probably
> doesn't have any of those problems -- people are using it for
> backups after all
> :-) -- but it's not always available, and even non-GNU cpio's
> do everything but the "0" trick.
>
> But all of those -- tar, cpio, rsync -- are kludges. Is it
> just me, or do other people also find it ludicrous that 30+
> years on, UNIX still doesn't have a proper copy command?
>
> --
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