I have lost the original post on this.  But how will options such as
--with-udp-ports, etc... be done in a pre-built?  Could be important for
firewallers.  I guess a certian range could be specified and documented.

Jim




On Fri, 2002-09-27 at 04:29, Edwin Hakkennes wrote:
> Hi Jon, Hi all,
> 
> My experience is with precompiled stuff only. I use both RedHat 7.2
> and Suse 7.2 RPMs and Debian 2.2 packages. They seem to work nicely
> toghether.
> 
> The big disadvantage of building your own binaries are
> 
> 1) You need a compiler
> 2) It takes time
> 3) You need to save your configuration for future rebuilds.
> 
> One of the documents describes the restore process. Even when
> the server is blown. The most difficult scenario is getting your
> binaries back. With a precompiled package, that is a snap.
> 
> You still need to configure the disklist and amanda.conf, but that is
> all.
> And you need to configure the .amadahost file on the clients and the
> server.
> Inetd stuff, services, suid bits, are all set by someone knowing what
> (s)he is doing. Gives me a good feeling.
> 
> On including tape-types, I would recommend to put in all tape-types
> (with clear names, possibly in a separately included file)
> and have the amanda.conf file referencing one in a as an example
> (with comment-marks).
> 
> Providing packages like this (for multiple OS'es) that can interact
> with each-other would very much help with the speading of Amanda.
> 
> For me, it worked out of the box. (exept for hardware tape-errors,
> which were saved with the help of this list.)
> 
> Jon LaBadie wrote:
> 
> > I've never installed and used amanda from a pre-built package.
> > Thus I'm not familiar with the needs and problems creating and
> > using such a package entail.
> >
> > Sun Freeware is a quasi official and supported Sun site for
> > distributing compiled freeware for solaris.  Current their list
> > includes a pretty old version of amanda for Sparc systems only.
> >
> > I have the ear of the site maintainer and think I can influence
> > what goes into the amanda package.  But I need some suggestions.
> >
> > Here are some things I've considered, but please supply any
> > experience or thoughts you may have.
> >
> > - amanda 2.4.3 official release is imminent, use that as the base
> >   when it is released
> >
> 
> Good
> 
> >
> > - the current package does not chown root, and setuid the several
> >   necessary programs, this should be done during installation
> >
> 
> Yes
> 
> >
> > - what config options should be used?
> >
> 
> See below for the RedHat config that works really well.
> 
> >
> > - should tapetype be precompiled too?
> >
> 
> Yes, see above
> 
> >
> > - how does a package handle the "defaults" like tape device, ...
> >
> 
> Provide an commented out example.
> 
> >
> > - should an amanda specific user and backup group be created by
> >   the installation, which names?
> >
> 
> amanda.disk seems the obvious choice to me.
> 
> >
> > - should a default amanda configuration directory, with example
> >   conf files be installed
> >
> 
> Yes, in /etc/amanda/DailySet1
> 
> >
> > - any other thoughts or war stories appreciated
> >
> 
> One patch that RedHat puts in is to not backup sockets. This won;t work
> anyway, so they decided to
> not back them up at all. This saves space in logfiles, and also prevents
> real errors or warnings to
> go undetected. It would be very nice if this would be the default. Or
> configurable.
> 
> This is run with RPM, which fixes up these prefixes. Everything installs
> in /usr /var/ and /etc/amanada.
> (but you can control that during install)
> 
> ./configure \
>         --prefix=%{_prefix} \
>         --exec-prefix=%{_exec_prefix} \
>         --bindir=%{_bindir} \
>         --sbindir=%{_sbindir} \
>         --sysconfdir=%{_sysconfdir} \
>         --datadir=%{_datadir} \
>         --includedir=%{_includedir} \
>         --libdir=%{_libdir} \
>         --libexecdir=%{_libexecdir} \
>         --localstatedir=%{_localstatedir} \
>         --sharedstatedir=%{_sharedstatedir} \
>         --mandir=%{_mandir} \
>         --host=%{_host} \
>         --infodir=%{_infodir} \
>         --enable-shared \
>         --with-index-server=localhost \
>         --with-gnutar-listdir=%{_localstatedir}/amanda/gnutar-lists \
>         --with-smbclient=%{_bindir}/smbclient \
>         --with-amandahosts \
>         --with-user=amanda \
>         --with-group=disk \
>         --with-gnutar=/bin/tar
> 
> 
> >
> > --
> > Jon H. LaBadie                  jon AT jgcomp DOT com
> >  JG Computing
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> 
> I hope this helps to get Amanda being used by as many people as
> possible. It is a GREAT package!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Edwin Hakkennes
> 
> Zarlink Semiconductor XIC B.V.
>