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Re: [Networker] Oracle Backups w/o rman

2008-09-24 18:14:15
Subject: Re: [Networker] Oracle Backups w/o rman
From: Doug Brown <Doug.Brown AT ABBOTT DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:43:54 -0500

Yes I would strongly recommend RMAN as well.   Most disasters don' t happen at opportune moments.   Meaning you'll want to recover the database to a particular point in time.   Oracle's recovery manager ( RMAN ) will give you this functionality.    If you lose a disk, RMAN can handle the recovery flawlessly.    You can use RMAN to backup to disk if you like, then backup those files to tape.   To recover, restore to the disk backup location.


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I would strongly urge you to push for oracle backups via RMAN. The DBAs
will thank you in the end, and your life will be so much easier. It is
the right thing to do, and the way the industry is going.

If you don't use RMAN, then you have to worry about duplicate backups
and how to accommodate for change without anybody telling you. You will
have to have oracle quiesce pre and post scripts to run with Legato, or
run everything outside of legato via scripts and commands. Each method
has it's own pros and cons.

Push for rman.

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Yard, John
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:34 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: [Networker] Oracle Backups w/o rman

I have a Legato 7.4.1 system
on AIX 5.3 which backups up a
number of Oracle databases.

Our strategy is to backup the Oracle
databases to disk , then backup the
Oracle backup os files to tape, then
delete the oracle backups.

In addition we backup the os filesystems
to tape . If I backup the oracle
file systems to Legato I will have a
massive duplication of data. Since Oracle
is not being terminated, these backups are
not valid for recovery, yet I need a structure
for the dba to recover into if we were to lose
a disk.

I am sure there is documentation in
respect to this issue, can this group
suggest some starting points ? Comments ?

Thank You,

JYard
UCLA  

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