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You'll likely receive many responses to your inquire so I add mine as well. In my research with DD and Quantum is that they were all compatible pieces to create the solution your seeking, however, there are many moving parts in getting them to work and some features are missing (as mentioned, ie. OST) compared to the Symantec Appliances. The Symantec Appliances have many of the best of bread software products built in i.e. Storage Foundation/High Availability etc.
Your environment sounds like an exact copy of ours. I currently have three 5230's deployed globally for the primary purpose of A.I.R., but also have one of them at our primary Data Center location whose additional function was to reduce backup windows and deduplicate data - all is working as promoted and designed. I've about a 72% deduplication rate with structured and unstructured data. Accelerator based backups are crazy fast after the first initial Full backup - two examples:
1. A 21 hour Full back up to LTO IV tape (dedicated backup network infrastructure) now takes only 50 minutes to the 5230 deduplication pool.
2. At an East Coast office a local backup of a 375 Gb Windows server with 1.8 million files would take around 9 to 10 hours. Again, with Accelerator enabled and the backup occurring over the WAN to our 5230 Appliance deduplication pool 2000 miles away, the backup only takes 1 hour 10 minutes. The rate from the NBU Console reports 89121 KB Per Second. (this may sound misleading, but you have to get your head around what the Accelerate and its Track Journal is doing which is comparing (no tree walk) de-duped block changes and sending only new blocks that don't reside on the target Appliance)
Symantec just announced the 5330 which is of course faster than the 5230 and it can scale to 229 Tb so this maybe something you might want to look into. Note also that a 5230 can be either a Master or Media server (all of mine are Media Servers) and the 5330 can only be a Media server which is not a limiting factor in my opinion.
I won't get into the discussion of whose better, NetBackup, EMC or Commvault because we are a Symantec NetBackup shop. I'll leave that response alone and to those who wish to share their experiences.
Scott
>>> Mikhail Nikitin <mikhail.nikitin AT gmail DOT com> 11/15/2014 3:16 PM >>>
Couple of things to consider.
NBU Appliance is a media server plus a dedupe pool so it can do offhost VMware backups over SAN whereas OST Appliances need a media server. Some additional features like VMware instant recovery are not yet available for OST partners.
You can attach Data Domain to the back of NBU Appliances, it is supported. So you can have both and avoid having extra media servers for Data Domains.
I would get both and maintain some balance. This should give you maximum discount from both Symantec and EMC.
Best regards, Mikhail
On 15/11/2014 3:46 am, "saiyed123" < nbu-forum AT backupcentral DOT com> wrote:
Our company is considering NBU for backup solution using backup appliance, our environment is mainly VMWARE ( 800+ guest) 30 + ESX and 30+Solaris boxes.
We also need Exchange backups to improve and keep the backup over the san when possible.
We will need data replicated offsite also.
Current proposal is Netbackup with 3 5230 appliances
I like the integration of Netbackup with Appliance but need to know those who are currently using it thier experience with it.
Upgrades/Vmware backup & Exchange/share point/sql etc, netbackup Air and accilirator products.
Why do you think Netbackup is better vs EMC or Commvault.
I understand there are some limitation with the Appliance in their size and capabilities as compared to DD, i.e NFS/VTL
Would it be better to go with two netbackup appliance and one data domain appliance so we can leverage all capabilities, Symantec is saying NFS capabilities are coming next year and suggest we backup external NFS mount ( waists of space and time).
So i need some opinion in this regard.
We are medium size company.
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