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[BackupPC-users] [OT] message threading (was: Re: (solved) Error: Unable to open /usr//doc/BackupPC.html: configuration)

2013-03-24 20:43:51
Subject: [BackupPC-users] [OT] message threading (was: Re: (solved) Error: Unable to open /usr//doc/BackupPC.html: configuration)
From: Holger Parplies <wbppc AT parplies DOT de>
To: David Kuntadi <d.kuntadi AT gmail DOT com>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 01:42:25 +0100
Hi,

David Kuntadi wrote on 2013-03-25 06:50:01 +0700 [Re: [BackupPC-users] (solved) 
Error: Unable to open /usr//doc/BackupPC.html: configuration]:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell AT gmail DOT com> 
> wrote:
> > Your difficulties are somewhat strange, since gmail manages to show
> > threaded conversations correctly from/to the forum gateway.   I think
> > the list archives do too.
> 
> Yes, using gmail, I could easily read the question and answer in my
> mail. And I have check the forum also do it correctly.

the question is not whether it's there, it's the in-thread relationships.
ASCII art also doesn't transport well - I'll try just the same. This is
what the thread looks like to me:

2945     Mar 24 Rickinfl        (  26) [BackupPC-users] Error: Unable to open /u
2946     Mar 24 backuppc@kosows (  47) +->Re: [BackupPC-users] Error: Unable to
2947     Mar 24 Rickinfl        (  20) +->[BackupPC-users] Error: Unable to open
2948     Mar 24 Holger Parplies (  37) | +->
2949     Mar 24 Rickinfl        (  20) +->
2950     Mar 24 backuppc@kosows (  31)   +->Re: [BackupPC-users] Error: Unable t
2951     Mar 24 Holger Parplies (  70)     +->Re: [BackupPC-users] (solved) Erro
2952     Mar 24 backuppc@kosows (  24)     | +->Re: [BackupPC-users] (solved) Er
2953     Mar 24 Les Mikesell    (  35)     | +->Re: [BackupPC-users] (solved) Er
2954     Mar 24 Holger Parplies (  49)     |   +->[BackupPC-users] [OT] message
2955 N   Mar 25 David Kuntadi   (  21)     |   +->Re: [BackupPC-users] (solved)
2956     Mar 25 David Kuntadi   (  20)     |     +->
2957     Mar 25 David Kuntadi   (  35)     +->Re: [BackupPC-users] Error: Unable
2958     Mar 25 Holger Parplies (  22)       +->
2959     Mar 24 backuppc@kosows (  26)       +->Re: [BackupPC-users] Error: Unab

It's actually very clear who responded to which message. My point was that
#2949 was, technically, a response to #2945 and not to #2948, though I don't
suspect the OP meant to call himself rude. Using e-mail things "just work",
because MUAs usually get the headers right. Again, it's not about
understandability in *this* case, it's about technical correctness. I might
decide to read a message (or not) based on which part of the thread it appears
to be in, and I might have a different context for understanding the message,
depending on where it is put. I might decide to ignore the rest of this
thread but still want to read direct replies to my messages.

If your MUA doesn't support correct threading and instead lists all messages
chronologically (perhaps sorted by thread, maybe even only by subject line),
then you're free to be happy with that, but it doesn't make it correct.

A forum basically cannot do threading correctly. I've recently seen an
attempt. It was a really long thread with over 800 messages, coming in at a
fast rate. Basically, you needed to re-read everything each day to find out
which messages were new. Unusable. A MUA simply marks new messages (#2955).

Regards,
Holger

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