Jerry, have your clients bought off on the "wait until the mainframe is
restored until we BEGIN our client restores"?

If so, how long is it before that would happen and assuming that you
have prioritized you clients, what are the shortest/longest
requirements?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Lawson [SMTP:jlawson AT THEHARTFORD DOT COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 4:30 PM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: ADSM alternatives
>
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> From: INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE
> Date: 2/11/98 10:35AM
> To: Jerry Lawson at ASUPO
> *To: *ADSM-L at SNADGATE
> Subject: Re: ADSM alternatives
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> In my experience, the two major platforms based on activity of notes
> on the
> list, are on AIX and MVS, (no order implied) with VM third.  No
> scientific
> study....just based on a feel of the questions that get posted.  Don't
> take
> the lack of postings as a statement of neglect - while there are over
> 1250
> registered members, I have found that only a small number actively
> participate - there are a lot of "lurkers" out there!  :-)  (But isn't
> that
> what List Servers are for????)
>
> We are MVS, and have been running it for several years.  We looked at
> multiple products before selecting ADSM for a pilot.  Since the
> products have
> changed so dramatically in three years, I would think that are
> findings might
> not be relevant (or correct) today.  In a nutshell, we selected it
> because of
> the breadth of support clients, servers, and comm methods.
> Additionally, we
> liked the product because there was a marked attempt to have the
> clients be
> "appropriate" for the platform.... in other words - the Macintosh
> client
> looked like a Macintosh client - not an OS/2 (or windows or Unix)
> application
> rewritten for the platform. This held true across all platforms and
> made for
> ease of use - it reacts consistently to the operating system.
>
> I have not been in touch with the "alternatives" in a while, but would
> expect
> our review of products to have ADSM on top again.  The salability
> argument is
> one that ARCServe seems to be throwing around again, and seems to me
> to be
> disinformation more than anything.  Sort of like the definition of the
> acronym MIPS - Meaningless Information Propagated by Salesmen  :-)>
>
> The last time I looked, Gartner Group gave ADSM a high rating as well.
> That
> was before V3 was announced, so you might check again if you are a GG
> client.
>
> Jerry Lawson
> jlawson AT thehartford DOT com
>
>
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> __________________________________
> Subject: Re: ADSM alternatives
> Author:  INTERNET.OWNERAD at SNADGATE
> Date:    2/11/98 10:35 AM
>
>
> Can I ask why (in general terms)??
>
> Also, I wanted to note that there wasn't a great response to my
> question
> about other ADSM replacement product analysis.  Does this mean:
> *there aren't a lot of MVS server customers here on this forum?
> *that people jumped on ADSM initially and for various reasons, don't
> want to convert to another product?
> *that people want to keep quiet about the analysis they may have done?
> *that no other product does the job of ADSM?
>
> I appreciate the responses that I DID get and would appreciate all
> other
> comments?????
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Smith, Richard [SMTP:smithrr AT MARITZ DOT COM]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 9:03 AM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: ADSM alternatives
> >
> >         Just a note... We are using Harbor for one of our NT servers
> > and
>  > about
> > 10 Novell servers, and plan to replace it with ADSM.
> >
> > Rick Smith
> > Maritz, Inc.
> > Storage & Security Administration
> > smithrr AT maritz DOT com
> > (314) 827-1584
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         Hauenstein Peter[SMTP:Peter.Hauenstein AT AID.ZH DOT CH]
> > > Sent:         Wednesday, February 11, 1998 3:17 AM
> > > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject:      Re: ADSM alternatives
> > >
> > > If you are looking for another solution, have a look at Harbor
> from
> > > Interlink.
> > > web: http:/www.interlink.com
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >