Richard:

Legato might have been considered had my previous and current shops been
heavily UNIX-based. But that wasn't the case at that time. Neither wanted
to enter the deep, dark realms of UNIX at that moment in history (or now
for that matter, but neither has been able to stay off the UNIX wagon to
date). When I arrived here, GENAM was heavily involved with OS/2 and APPC
protocols --- not one of Legato's favorite arenas. It wasn't until this
past year that NT and TCP/IP were brought into this environment, and by
that point ADSM was well on its way. Legato has just recently introduced NT
into its mix (couldn't give you the exact date), but again ADSM was already
into implementation here.

I should amend my previous statements by saying that ADSM is NOT the only
software we're running here for backup/archive. The Novell environment is
still IPX, and therefore is unable to use ADSM's MVS server. The IP
implementation is currently underway to make ADSM the Novell servers'
backup methodology. And there are DLTs being driven by BackupExec in tandem
with ADSM  where there have been recent changes to the ADSM environment
(i.e. addition of the Notes Connect Agent under NT for instance). Some of
these methods were in place before I arrived here, and getting away from
them is, of course, starting from scratch in all areas (naming conventions,
etc.). It's moving slowly, but we'll get there....

So, when considerations were being made to make changes to the way in which
we handle the backup business, Legato was looked at, but was deemed
unusable for the current environment at that time. HARBOR was already in
place, but not adequate. Others were determined to be too one thing or
another, and viola! ADSM popped up with a few more platforms, and a few
more communications protocols, and the rest, as they say, is history.

C.L.Cannam
Storage Management
GENAM/St. Louis, MO/USA




"Wendrock, Richard O" <wendrro AT TEXACO DOT COM> on 02/11/98 01:41:19 PM

Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>

To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
cc:    (bcc: Cindy Cannam)
Subject:  Re: ADSM alternatives




Cindy,
Did you consider Lagato as an alternative? If not why?
Regards,
Richard
> ----------
> From:         Cindy Cannam[SMTP:CCannam AT GENAM DOT COM]
> Sent:         Wednesday, February 11, 1998 10:08 AM
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject:      Re: ADSM alternatives
>
> To all:
>
> They were using HARBOR here at this company before I arrived, but there
> had
> never been a move to upgrade or use the system much beyond its original
> installation features. When I came on board, I reviewed HARBOR against a
> number of other backup/archive software systems including ADSM, and
simply
> found that HARBOR was (1) slow to respond to changing technology on the
> few
> platforms it supported; and (2) that concerns from other users were
> mounting about its ability to gracefully handle large transfers of data
> (either from a backup or a restore) in any scenario. This was a little
> unnerving with a higher emphasis on disaster recovery looming over most
> companies.
>
> IMHO: I believe HARBOR may be a good product for smaller organizations
> that
> are not expecting large amounts of storage growth or mad switches in
> preferred platforms over an non-specific period of time.
>
> I will admit the first version of ADSM was cumbersome and tedious, and
> other products were serious contenders for the same markets during that
> first year or so. But IBM has taken on a gigantic task in keeping ahead
of
> the storage management crowd with updates to ADSM, and responding to
> users'
> requirements (and demands in many cases). Support for such a large number
> of platforms in both the client and server arenas is a major plus ---
> there
> were no other products that came close to the numbers of platforms (and
> versions) supported. And upgrades really do provide the fixes and
features
> that create a better storage management environment.
>
> The main thing ADSM brought to the table was experience: none of the
other
> products could promise to have such a broad band of knowledge involved in
> the development and support of a multi-function, multi-platform software
> solution for an increasingly more visible component of any business. At
> least IBM had the forethought to get on the right horse BEFORE the race
> this time....
>
> C.L.Cannam
> Storage Management
> GENAM/St. Louis, MO/USA
>
>
>
>
> "Smith, Richard" <smithrr AT MARITZ DOT COM> on 02/11/98 08:02:41 AM
>
> Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> cc:    (bcc: Cindy Cannam)
> Subject:  Re: ADSM alternatives
>
>
>
>
>         Just a note... We are using Harbor for one of our NT servers and
> about
> 10 Novell servers, and plan to replace it with ADSM.
> Rick Smith
> Maritz, Inc.
> Storage & Security Administration
> smithrr AT maritz DOT com
> (314) 827-1584
> > ----------
> > From:         Hauenstein Peter[SMTP:Peter.Hauenstein AT AID.ZH DOT CH]
> > Sent:         Wednesday, February 11, 1998 3:17 AM
> > To:   ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject:      Re: ADSM alternatives
> >
> > If you are looking for another solution, have a look at Harbor from
> > Interlink.
> > web: http:/www.interlink.com
> >
> > Peter
> >
>