Re: Distribution of NetView 5.1

1998-09-10 14:32:48
Subject: Re: Distribution of NetView 5.1
From: Scott McCambly <mccambly AT NETCOM DOT CA>
To: nv-l AT lists.tivoli DOT com
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:32:48 -0400
Hi James,

First - It has been fantastic having you (and some of your co-workers) on
this list over the years.  I consider it an indispensible support tool
mostly because of your expertise, so I'm sorry to send this flame in your
direction, however, I'm not sure where else to turn.  So here goes...

I don't understand how a major NetView release can be announced without "an
exhaustive list" of new features being documented somewhere (hopefully
online!).  I sure miss the IBM method of actual announcement letters
available on the announce date.  The current NetView pages on the Tivoli
product web site don't even mention that there is a V5.0 and V5.1, and even
the "data sheet" is written using nebulous marketing speak - directed
(supposedly) exclusively at upper management.

Will we REALLY have to order and/or install the upgrade to discover all the

... Phew, that feels better...

Anyway, thanks for putting a list of enhancements together for us, if and
when you get the time, even though I'm sure it isn't in your job
description.  Feel free to pass this note along to anyone you can think of
on the marketing side who might be able to remedy this sort of thing in the

Thanks again.

At 02:01 PM 04/09/98 -0400, you wrote:
>What you have described IS the upgrade path.  You backup what you have,
>delete the old product, whether Version 4.0 or V5.0, and install the new
>product, which takes note of your backup and installs it along with the new
>code.  If your backup is present on the machine when you install, it will
>migrate automatically.  You are migrating from one level of code to
>another.  This is not anything like applying an AIX PTF.  It is rather the
>same as going from NetView V3 to V4, or AIX 4.1 to AIX 4.2.
>There are many new functions but I don't have an exhaustive list at this
>time.  For example, the NT product gets nvcorrd so it can run rulesets
>(though new ones have to be created on UNIX because there is no editor
>provided on NT yet), and the UNIX product gets some NT function, like
>nvsniffer, which tests ports on your devices to discover what boxes have
>web servers and that sort of thing, and builds collections of these things
>automatically.  It can be extended to build other automatic collections as
>well.  There is also the opportunity for much more integration with TEC and
>Tivoli Inventory.   As time permits, I will try to put a list together, but
>it may not be soon.
>James Shanks
>Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>Marc Russo <mrusso AT AL.IISL DOT COM> on 09/04/98 11:19:27 AM
>Please respond to Discussion of IBM NetView and POLYCENTER Manager on
>      NetView et alia <NV-L AT UCSBVM.UCSB DOT EDU>
>cc:    (bcc: James Shanks)
>Subject:  Re: Distribution of NetView 5.1
>Thanks for the info.  I just have a couple of questions.
>I've heard a lot about how v5.1 is going to fix problems in 5.0, but I've
>heard nothing about new features for 5.1.  Are there any significant new
>Also, I am assuming that their is actually an upgrade path from 5.0 to 5.1
>(meaning that I don't have to back up databases, delete everything, install
>5.1, and restore databases like going from 4.x to 5.0).  Is this a correct
>Marc Russo (mrusso AT al.iisl DOT com)
>International Integrated Solutions, LTD
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James_Shanks AT TIVOLI DOT COM [SMTP:James_Shanks AT TIVOLI DOT COM]
>> Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 6:22 AM
>> To:   NV-L AT UCSBVM.ucsb DOT edu
>> Subject:      Distribution of NetView 5.1
>> Hello everyone,
>>      I have received a number of questions surrounding NetView 5.1
>> availability, so  I though I would update everyone at once.
>>      NetView 5.1 officially became RTM (Release To Manufacturing) on
>> August
>> 24, 1998, meaning the final bits have been cut onto a CD  and the code is
>> available through Tivoli channels.  The product will NOT actually become
>> GA
>> (generally available) through the IBM worldwide distribution channels
>> until
>> September 18, 1998.  All customers with a current maintenance contract
>> NetView will automatically receive the 5.1 code on the GA date.  If you
>> are
>> a  customer that wants a copy of 5.1 prior to the GA date, you need to do
>> the following:
>> Starting on Thursday, September 3, the customer can send a note directly
>> to
>> swdist AT tivoli DOT com requesting NetView 5.1, again including the same
>> information:  company name, customer # (preferably, a Tivoli cust# which
>> starts with a T, but IBM cust# can work), mailing address, contact name,
>> and contact telephone number.
>> Please note that a number of customers on the HOT LIST that were to
>> receive
>> a copy of NetView 5.1 were NOT entitled to NetView or had their
>> maintenance
>> contract expire (a customer receives 1 year of service free when
>> purchasing
>> the product, but must pay for a maintenance contract after that in order
>> to
>> receive upgrades).  If a customer sends a note to swdist and their
>> maintenance contract has expired, they will be sent a reply note asking
>> them to renew their contract via another note to renew AT tivoli DOT com.  
>> The
>> Tivoli account representative, if known, is generally blind copied on
>> note.
>>      Hope this helps!!
>> One last note:  If a customer purchased NetView for NT or NetView for
>> Digital Unix through Digital, they must request 5.1 through the Digital
>> (Compaq) Corporation, who does have a copy of the code.
>> James Shanks
>> Tivoli (NetView for UNIX) L3 Support
>> P.S.  I was also informed that the hardcopy documentation for NetView 5.1
>> is not available at this time, but will be sent to all customers who
>> receive the product when available.  For the UNIX product, however the
>> hardcopy is identical to the 5.0 version.
Scott McCambly
AIX/NetView/ADSM Specialist - Unopsys Inc.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada