Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up SQL and Transaction logs?

Nope, no seperate scripts. I list all the fulls in the script and then all the trxlogs next. The Groupsize here is a red herring here. Then i schedule the script to run. The script will work through the list sequentially, including the trrxlogs...and theoretically truncate.

No need for 2 scripts, unless you want to have adhoc/more regular runs of transaction logs

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Hello Michael,
My scripts look very similar to yours, where I have the individual DB names called out in one script file.
I'm assuming you're also running 2 separate scripts with the TRXLOG backup running after the FULL DB Backup runs?
What's your time variance between the two?

Thanks for your input.

Regards,
John Keating
Information Technology
Tachi-S Engineering U.S.A. Inc.

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up SQL and Transaction logs?

Folks,

Here' s my take on it. You can use DATABASE $ALL but this won't truncate your log files if you're using 'Full recovery' mode in SQL.

You can create 2 scripts, and it works but one is obviously dependant on the other having completed, or do as i do and specify each DATABASE individually in the script and then each transaction log seperately, see below:

Works for us and have proven recovery. One slight cavaet, when your dba creates new databases he better tell you, otherwise they won't be getting backed up

GROUPSIZE 15
OPERATION BACKUP
DATABASE "YOURNAME"
SQLHOST "sqlhost"
NBSERVER "master"
MAXTRANSFERSIZE 0
BLOCKSIZE 7
BROWSECLIENT "clientname"
ENDOPER TRUE

GROUPSIZE 15
OPERATION BACKUP
DATABASE "YOURNAME"
SQLHOST "sqlhost"
NBSERVER "master"
MAXTRANSFERSIZE 0
BLOCKSIZE 7
BROWSECLIENT "clientname"
OBJECTTYPE TRXLOG
ENDOPER TRUE

Mike

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Hello Simon,
Thanks for the reply and yes it does answer my question.
While reading through the admin guide I think I've come to the same conclusion.

Can I ask why you run the log backup's 12 hours after and not sooner? I would think that I would want to grab the logs ASAP after a "Full" in order to truncate and file away.
Thanks again.

Regards,
John Keating
Information Technology
Tachi-S Engineering U.S.A. Inc.

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RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up SQL and Transaction logs?

John
Maybe I am doing it wrong, but this is what I do ...

1) Single .bch file called "SQL_Backup.bch" with the following:
OPERATION BACKUP
DATABASE $ALL
SQLHOST "<CLIENT>"
NBSERVER "<MASTER_NBU>"
MAXTRANSFERSIZE 0
BLOCKSIZE 7
ENDOPER TRUE

This is created for a policy called "SQL_FULL_BACKUPS". This allows me to do a FULL Online SQL DB Backup of all DB's

Now for the Transaction logs, I do the following:
1) Single .bch file called "SQL_Backup_TXLogs.bch" with the following:
OPERATION BACKUP
DATABASE $ALL
SQLHOST "<Client>"
NBSERVER "<MASTER_NBU>"
MAXTRANSFERSIZE 0
BLOCKSIZE 7
OBJECTTYPE TRXLOG
ENDOPER TRUE
This is then created for a second policy called "SQL_TX_LOGS" and runs AFTER the full SQL Backup has run (usually 12 hours after the SQL Full Backup Window starts).

I have had to restore SQL from the Full and Logs, and the DBA's have never complained.
I read through the SQL Admin guide to get most of this done.

Does this make sence, or answer your questions?
Simon

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up SQL and Transaction logs?

Hello All,
I've been backing up several SQL servers for quite some time now and through re-creating a "disaster recovery" situation and reading through SAP section of the NetBackup SQL Admin guide I notice the section for backing up transaction logs.
After going through the SQL transaction log creation wizard, I verified the changes in that batch file to my original "Full" SQL batch file that I've been using.
The changes were these 2 lines:
BROWSECLIENT "CLIENT_NAME"
OBJECTTYPE TRXLOG

Am I correct to think that without these 2 lines in my batch file that a complete restore of the databases for SAP or otherwise would not happen?
Should I simply add these 2 lines to my original batch file?

Thanks for your help.

Regards,
John Keating
Information Technology
Tachi-S Engineering U.S.A. Inc.

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