Radim Roska wrote:
> Hi,
>
> firstly I would like to say that I appreciate your help very much..thanks :)
Yoiu're welcome, I made this message going to the bacula-users, so we can
benefit from the experience of all of them.
( Thunderbird Reply-Button syndrome )
>
> And now about the configuration. Bacula manual is really great..its
> just standard hdd matter and how to manage that is not described so
> well and I have difficulties to understand how to set it up.
There's several way so it complicates a bit the comprehension.
You can use hdd like a tape ( not so much use I think )
Use disque as a repository of volumes like I use this
/media/backups/ ( the mount point for my backups storage )
After I made several sub-directories ( making them a storage device / each
having it's own type of device )
it's useful for concurency backup.
so I've got
/media/backups/FS_YEAR
/media/backups/FS_MONTH
/media/backups/FS_WEEK
/media/backups/FS_DAY
I create a pool for each type. so I've got pool_year pool_month pool_week
pool_day
>
> Ive set 13x25G(actually random decision:) so that it does not run out
> of space and i though it will be enough but as you showed me its
> not...is it possible to backup 180GB on 360GB hdd? I would expect it
> should be :)
>
> But I guess I cannot follow your example because if i understand
> correctly you have at least 4 full backups at once..
I've lot's of full backups :-))
At least one for the year, 12 months, 2 weeks, 2 days
>
> btw how often do you recycle your pools?
Recycle time is done like this
year = 20 years
month = 11 month 2 weeks
weeks = 4 weeks 5 days
days = 13 days
Day pool every day? Week pool
> every week and month every month? that would be probably relatively
> space efficient.
If you don't care about so much backup ( saying I don't care to retrevieve a
file deleting 3 months ago )
You could adjust the number of full to what you need.
>
> Now ive just removed size limit and run full backup jobs from
> start..ive purged all jobs, all volumes etc...because i still couldnt
> start volumes working - ive enlarged maximum volumes limit and
> manually created (label) new volume..but backup didnt start nor
> continue..
I'm not sure of what's happen.
Im gonna wait what happens - it takes some time (especially
> through ssh tunnel - tls support is not in debian backport 2.4 bacula
> :/)
>
Perharps you should try to just save some local data, to test if all your
configuration works.
> Enjoy opensuse conference :)..and thank you for your time!
>
> Cheers,
> Radim
Nice meetings, fun time ... :-)
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Bruno Friedmann <bruno AT ioda-net DOT ch>
> wrote:
>> Hi Radim, I need to do it quickly as I going tomorrow in Nüremberg at the
>> opensuse conf days until sunday.
>> (But I should try to have some minutes and email access there)
>>
>> your config is quiet simple and working as you already receive data.
>> I've just have some remarks,
>>
>> If you do all backup in one pool this one should be able to keep all needed
>> media which is not your case
>>
>> For a full month
>> Schedule {
>> Name = "WeeklyCycle"
>> Run = Full 1st sun at 23:05
>> Run = Differential 2nd-5th sun at 23:05
>> Run = Incremental mon-sat at 23:05
>> }
>>
>> 5 medias for Full & Diff on 5 weeks month
>> + 6 medias for incremental :
>>
>> You allow 13x25Gb media = 325Gb or your full backup is around 180Gb which
>> consume 180/25 = 7.2 so 8 media
>> leaving only 5 media free for all the rest of the month which would not
>> suffice :-)
>>
>> So there two choice, limit 13 medias but not size limit
>> Limit size but allow many more media.
>>
>> Personnaly I prefer to have a pool for Month ( always full ), pool for week
>> (one full 5 diff), pool for days ( 2 full + 6
>> incremental )
>> You just add a Pool directive in your schedule et voilà !
>> (take a look at the excellent documentation)
>>
>> So I think you are more in math trouble than pure bacula. (hope it's more
>> easy to fix)
>>
>> Oh, you just have to change the password you used, as they are included in
>> the conf distributed on the list.
>>
>> Give news about your results.
>>
>>
>> Radim Roska wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> thank you. Truth is I would like to get 2.4 working because to get 3.0
>>> is not so easy...but i guess i could compile it instead of getting it
>>> from deb packages. But anyway problem is maybe that I lack
>>> understanding how to control volumes etc...I dont have this
>>> autochanger configured but during first backup it successfully was
>>> creating additional volumes and worked..dont know why its not now :)
>>>
>>> Now I've realized maybe bigger size happened because I have one mount
>>> --bind there and I backup both locations - so thats my mistake and now
>>> im excluding it.
>>>
>>> I've included 3 config files
>>>
>>> dir and sd are on one server and fd is on another.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you could find anything wrong I would be very thankful :) I've
>>> already spent on it hours without really understanding whats wrong.
>>> I've got there also commented TLS statements ..it didnt work correctly
>>> on 1.8 version so i tried ssh tunnel solution that worked..but now i
>>> have as i've said different problems :/
>>>
>>> Thank you very much
>>>
>>> Radim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Bruno Friedmann <bruno AT ioda-net DOT ch>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I think there also a pb with your config, as you mention you have more
>>>> backup data than data.
>>>>
>>>> I believe in that case that you save more than one time the same data.
>>>> Typically this could append
>>>> with option like
>>>> onefs = No
>>>> and you specified / and /var ( in this case /var would be save two time )
>>>> also be carefull with chrooted daemon ( ntp, bind, dhcp etc ... ) if they
>>>> contain /dev & /proc
>>>> you have to exclude also them . Trying to save a kcore would resume in
>>>> infinite backup :-)
>>>>
>>>> conf from fd & dir welcome :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Radim Roska wrote:
>>>>> Ok..if there's a chance it solves it then i will try it...
>>>>>
>>>>> hopefully i dont have to create all configuration from beginning :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Bruno Friedmann <bruno AT ioda-net DOT
>>>>> ch> wrote:
>>>>>> I have try to find in ml where this damned bug reside, but I've not
>>>>>> found him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's trouble with the 2.4.4 version and you should try as much as
>>>>>> possible use the lastest only stable supported version 3.0.1
>>>>>> I know there's somewhere deb pack for this version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (It doesn't automatically resolve all of your troubles )
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Radim Roska wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry, I havent specified my environment :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Im running bacula from debian(etch) backports (2.4.4-1)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Radim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Bruno Friedmann <bruno AT ioda-net DOT
>>>>>>> ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Radim Roska wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im new to bacula, installed it on 3 servers and run first job ok(im
>>>>>>>>> sending data by ssh tunnel because tls didnt work for me)...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it backups around 180GB data on 400GB device. Pool had defined 10x25GB
>>>>>>>>> volumes and run out of space after first full backup(dont understand
>>>>>>>>> that:/) So i modified it to 13x25GB and labeled new volume but when i
>>>>>>>>> run new job it does not continue on this volume. (device is there - in
>>>>>>>>> db and also on fs)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | 44 | Volumes0041 | Append | 1 | 394 |
>>>>>>>>> 0 | 2,678,400 | 1 | 0 | 0 | File |
>>>>>>>>> 0000-00-00 00:00:00 |
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ive umount storage and now when i mount it again it gives me this
>>>>>>>>> error:
>>>>>>>>> 3901 Unable to open device "FileStorage" (/backups/): ERR=Could not
>>>>>>>>> open file device "FileStorage" (/backups/). No Volume name given.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in status storage command i can see that done jobs in total wrote
>>>>>>>>> around 180G so dont know what is remaining 70G of data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Follows some additional info about configuration and status.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please help :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> status of storage:
>>>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>>>> Device status:
>>>>>>>>> Device "FileStorage" (/backups/) is not open.
>>>>>>>>> Device is BLOCKED. User unmounted during wait for media/mount.
>>>>>>>>> Configured device capabilities:
>>>>>>>>> EOF BSR BSF FSR FSF EOM !REM RACCESS AUTOMOUNT LABEL !ANONVOLS
>>>>>>>>> ALWAYSOPEN
>>>>>>>>> Device state:
>>>>>>>>> !OPENED !TAPE !LABEL !MALLOC !APPEND !READ !EOT !WEOT !EOF !NEXTVOL
>>>>>>>>> !SHORT !MOUNTED
>>>>>>>>> num_writers=1 block=5
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Device parameters:
>>>>>>>>> Archive name: /backups/ Device name: FileStorage
>>>>>>>>> File=0 block=197
>>>>>>>>> Min block=0 Max block=0
>>>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Configuration files:
>>>>>>>>> bacula-sd.conf:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> Device {
>>>>>>>>> Name = FileStorage
>>>>>>>>> Media Type = File
>>>>>>>>> Archive Device = /backups/
>>>>>>>>> LabelMedia = yes; # lets Bacula label unlabeled
>>>>>>>>> media
>>>>>>>>> Random Access = Yes;
>>>>>>>>> AutomaticMount = yes; # when device opened, read it
>>>>>>>>> RemovableMedia = no;
>>>>>>>>> AlwaysOpen = yes;
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> director:
>>>>>>>>> Pool {
>>>>>>>>> Name = Default
>>>>>>>>> Pool Type = Backup
>>>>>>>>> Recycle = yes # Bacula can automatically
>>>>>>>>> recycle Volumes
>>>>>>>>> AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes
>>>>>>>>> Volume Retention = 31 days # one year
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maximum Volumes = 13
>>>>>>>>> Maximum Volume Bytes = 25G #25 GB
>>>>>>>>> Label Format = Volumes #(should I pick a different
>>>>>>>>> name/ format)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Radim Roška
>>>>>>>>> Sent from Stavanger, 11, Norway
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Radim just to be sure, what are the version of Bacula ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
--
Bruno Friedmann
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