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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature Request: Implement an'Volume Append Duration' pool directive

2009-02-16 10:22:05
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature Request: Implement an'Volume Append Duration' pool directive
From: Kern Sibbald <kern AT sibbald DOT com>
To: "Jean Gobin" <jgobin AT strozllc DOT com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:19:49 +0100
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 22:30:04 Jean Gobin wrote:
> I think what he wants is a way to make sure a tape is closed to, say,
> start a week with a fresh tape.

Thanks.  That makes more sense.

>
> Pretty easy to do with different pools/schedules/jobs actually.

Yes, I agree.

Unless the author can come up with some additional convincing reason(s) for 
this, and possibly a better name, I will classify it as not really needed.

Best regards,

Kern

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> Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Feature Request: Implement
> an'Volume Append Duration' pool directive
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> Unfortunately, I don't understand the explanation below -- more
> precisely, I don't understand what it fixes.  Can anyone explain the
> need for this Feature Request to me?
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> I just cannot grasp what it serves to mark a tape Used when it has been
> unused for a certain period.
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> It also seems to me that ANDing together two different directives is a
> new concept, which could add complexity to the existing plethera of
> directives.
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> Regards,
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> Kern
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> On Wednesday 11 February 2009 18:38:15 Brian Debelius wrote:
> > I rotate sets of tapes each day.  I would like the last tape used in
> > the backup to be marked used after a certain amount of time has
> > elapsed.  It matters not to me when the volume was first written to.
> > For me, Volume use duration marks tapes used too early if there is a
> > hiccup in the backup run (and then requires an extra tape when none it
> >
> > needed) or too late and bacula wants to use the last tape for the next
>
> backup run.
>
> > Kern Sibbald wrote:
> > > I don't see the need for this feature.  With the current code, there
> > >
> > > is no harm if the tape is marked used while a job is running, so
> > > please explain why this feature is needed.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Kern
> > >
> > >> Item 1:  Implement an 'Volume Append Duration' pool directive
> > >>
> > >> Origin:  Brian Debelius, bdebelius at intelesyscorp.com
> > >>
> > >> Date:  5 February 2009
> > >>
> > >> What:  An 'Volume Append Duration' pool directive.  This directive
> > >> would set a window of time after the last write to a tape, after
> > >> which the tape is marked used.  This would be a complement to the
> > >> Volume Use Duration directive.
> > >>
> > >> Why:  Sometimes when a job pauses for whatever reason, the backup
> > >> run is interrupted long enough for the Volume Use Duration to be
> > >> exceeded and the currently loaded tape is mark used before the
> > >> entire backup run is complete.  With the Volume Append Duration, I
> > >> can set the tape to be marked used after x hours of no use.  This
> > >> would give more flexibility in determining when a tape gets marked
>
> used.
>
> > >> Notes:  Volume Append Duration or Volume Use Duration may be used,
> > >> OR both may be used in a pool definition.  If both are used then
> > >> then they are ANDED together, in that they both must be true for
> > >> the tape to be marked used.
> > >
> > > Best regards, Kern
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