Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] TLS Question

2008-08-18 13:04:53
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] TLS Question
From: Dan Langille <dan AT langille DOT org>
To: falmonte AT onemax DOT com
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:04:34 -0400
Franky Almonte wrote:
> Dan Langille wrote:
>> Sergio Gelato wrote:
>>> * Franky Almonte [2008-08-18 07:41:38 -0400]:
>>>> Sergio Gelato wrote:
>>>>> * Franky Almonte [2008-08-17 23:26:51 -0400]:
>>>>>> Ryan Novosielski wrote:
>>>>>>> One last question should fix me up -- which counts as a client?
>>>>>>> Just bconsole, or some of the other connections as well?
>>>>>>>       
>>>>>> Every host running the Bacula FileDaemon (Client).
>>>>>>     
>>>>> That's not quite my understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition, the client initiates the connection to the server:
>>>>> 1) bconsole is a client of the director;
>>>>> 2) the director is a client of the FDs and of the SDs;
>>>>> 3) the FDs are clients of the SDs, *but* they don't need a certificate
>>>>> to authenticate themselves: instead, they use the cookie that the
>>>>> director hands them for this purpose. This saves the administrator
>>>>> the trouble of maintaining a list of TLS Allowed CN for all the FDs
>>>>> on every SD (and of creating client certificates for the FDs; they
>>>>> only
>>>>> need server certificates).
>>>>>   
>>>> Yes, your right about clients. But, now i have a question about "Client
>>>> certificates". I don't need to create certificates for clients ? 
>>> What I'm saying is that the FDs only need server certificates (for
>>> securing incoming connections from the director and for authenticating
>>> themselves to the director). The FDs will only contact the SDs on the
>>> director's instructions, and along with these instructions the director
>>> will provide a one-time cookie that the FD can present to the SD for
>>> authentication. (The director will have talked to the SD directly,
>>> authenticating to the SD with its client certificate, and conveyed
>>> a copy of that same cookie.) So the SD doesn't check the FD's
>>> certificate in order to authenticate the transaction: it checks the
>>> cookie instead.
>>>
>>>> They just use the one from the Director ?
>>> Indirectly; see above.
>>>
>>>>> The director needs both a server and a client certificate. (One could
>>>>> set the extendedKeyUsage so that the same certificate can be used for
>>>>> both purposes, but I prefer to issue two different certificates.)
>>>>>   
>>>> Why the server needs both a server and a client certificate? 
>>> That's not what I said. A server needs a server certificate; a client
>>> *may* need a client certificate. The director needs both, because it
>>> acts both as a server (accepting bconsole connections) and as a
>>> client (connecting
>>> and authenticating to the FDs and to the SDs). The FDs also act both as
>>> servers (accepting director connections) and clients (connecting to the
>>> SDs) but they authenticate to the SD through a mechanism that doesn't
>>> require them to present a client certificate.
>> Are you sure that the Director needs both a client and a server
>> certificate?  My Director has only one. A server certificate.
> I'm also using only one certificate for the Director. The server
> certificate.
> 
>> And, FWIW, I use only Server certificates for my TLS.  I use them on
>> the SD, the FD, and the Director.  I do not use Client certificates,
>> AFAIK.
>>
> This is the part i don't understand. How i setup the FD for this?
> Actually i'm using client certificates.

Does this help?

   http://www.freebsddiary.org/bacula-tls.php

I documented my setup as I went.  The above is exactly what I did.


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Dan Langille

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