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Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding

2016-01-25 10:37:23
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
From: Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:35:37 -0500
Hi Erwann,

This option was added to the product, starting with version 6.4.1, through
APAR IC91871:

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC91871

Best regards,

- Andy

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Andrew Raibeck | IBM Spectrum Protect Level 3 | storman AT us.ibm DOT com

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http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSGSG7/welcome
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https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/wikis/home/wiki/Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 2016-01-24
05:40:40:

> From: Erwann SIMON <erwann.simon AT FREE DOT FR>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date: 2016-01-24 05:41
> Subject: Re: Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> I thought that it's a new option in the 7.x branch, not already
> available in 6.x. Anyway, this absolute option does not appear in 6.
> 4 client documentation.
>
> --
> Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> Erwann SIMON
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Robert Ouzen" <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
> À: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Envoyé: Dimanche 24 Janvier 2016 07:12:58
> Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
>
> Hi Erwann
>
> IN client 6.x.x..x I have to the option of copy mode ABSOLUTE .....
> so why I nned client vrsion 7+ ?
> It will not work ?
>
> Best Regards Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
> Behalf Of Erwann SIMON
> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:08 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
>
> Hello Robert,
>
> If you only have client whose version is 7.1 or later, you can also
> use the absolute option :
>
> Use the absolute option with the incremental command to force a
> backup of all files and directories that match the file
> specification or domain, even if the objects were not changed since
> the last incremental backup.
>
> This option overrides the management class copy group mode parameter
> for backup copy groups; it does not affect the frequency parameter
> or any other backup copy group parameters.
>
>
> --
> Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> Erwann SIMON
>
> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "Robert Ouzen" <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
> À: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Envoyé: Samedi 23 Janvier 2016 16:12:07
> Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
>
> Hi Keith
>
> I am curious of the result .
>
> I need too, to back up to a new storage pool of type directory
> container (new feature inV7.1.4).  Cannot do a nextstg or move nodedata.
>
> So want to try your suggestion COPY MODE ABSOLUTE for now I did in
> another way.
>
> Rename the node to node_OLD   (all FI are with extension _OLD after
> it) , recreate the node and change the destination to the new
> storage directory.
>
> After a wild delete the OLD FI and OLD node.
>
> My copypool looks like this:
>
> Policy Domain     Policy Set Name      Mgmt Class Name   Versions
> Data Exists        Versions Data Deleted         Retain Extra
> Versions          Retain Only Version    Copy Mode     Copy Destination
>
> CC                           ACTIVE                      MGCC12
> 4                                          1
> No Limit                                60
> Modified          NET_TSM
>
> So  need to change to
>
> Policy Domain     Policy Set Name      Mgmt Class Name   Versions
> Data Exists        Versions Data Deleted         Retain Extra
> Versions          Retain Only Version    Copy Mode      Copy Destination
>
> CC                           ACTIVE                      MGCC12
> 4                                          1
> 10                                          10
> Absolute             V7000_D1
>
> So after 10-11 days all my 3 inactive versions will vanish  from STG
> NET_TSM ....... correct >
>
> Best Regards
>
> Robert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
> Behalf Of Arbogast, Warren K
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:22 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
>
> Hi Thomas,
> Thank you for your insight. RETONLY was 60 days during the absolute
> backups. We just reduced it to 30 days this morning when we saw
> unexpected files on the VTL. Perhaps tomorrow the VTL will look better.
>
> Best wishes,
> Keith Arbogast
> Indiana University
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/22/16, 13:11, "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Thomas
> Denier" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU on behalf of Thomas.Denier AT JEFFERSON 
> DOT EDU>
wrote:
>
> >Is RETONLY also set to 30 days? If RETONLY is longer than 30 days,
> backup copies some files deleted before the absolute backups would
> be retained for more than 30 days after the absolute backups.
> >
> >Thomas Denier
> >Thomas Jefferson University
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> >Of Arbogast, Warren K
> >
> >We have implemented directory container pools in TSM version 7.1.4
> and are happy with it.  All new backups are written to the DEDUP
> pool, and old backups are being migrated from the VTL to the DEDUP
> pool through a process of replicating existing nodes' files to a
> DEDUP pool on a target server,  then replicating them back to the
> DEDUP pool on the source server. That process works well.
> >
> >There is an urgency to empty the storage previously used on the VTL
> so it can be re-purposed. To hurry the migration to the DEDUP pool
> along we devised a strategy of running FULL backups (COPY MODE:
> ABSOLUTE) on certain small servers in policy domains whose
> destination was the DEDUP pool. That would promote all of a node’s
> previous backups on the VTL to Inactive status. And, since the
> pertinent RETAIN EXTRA VERSIONS setting was ’30’, we expected within
> 30 days all inactive versions would be expired and removed from the VTL.
> >
> >It’s 30 days later, and the strategy did not work perfectly. There
> are thousands of files remaining on the VTL for nodes which had  a
> COPY MODE: ABSOLUTE backup.
> >
> >What am I misunderstanding about COPY MODE: ABSOLUTE?  I had
> understood it would force a 100% full backup, with no mitigation by
> include and exclude  statements. Apparently that’s not the case.
> Could someone clarify how it works?
> >
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