ADSM-L

Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding

2016-01-24 01:14:45
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding
From: Robert Ouzen <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2016 06:12:58 +0000
Hi Erwann

IN client 6.x.x..x I have to the option of copy mode ABSOLUTE ..... so why I 
nned client vrsion 7+ ?
It will not work ?

Best Regards Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Erwann SIMON
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 8:08 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding

Hello Robert,

If you only have client whose version is 7.1 or later, you can also use the 
absolute option :

Use the absolute option with the incremental command to force a backup of all 
files and directories that match the file specification or domain, even if the 
objects were not changed since the last incremental backup.

This option overrides the management class copy group mode parameter for backup 
copy groups; it does not affect the frequency parameter or any other backup 
copy group parameters.


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Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
Erwann SIMON

----- Mail original -----
De: "Robert Ouzen" <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
À: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Envoyé: Samedi 23 Janvier 2016 16:12:07
Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding

Hi Keith

I am curious of the result . 

I need too, to back up to a new storage pool of type directory container (new 
feature inV7.1.4).  Cannot do a nextstg or move nodedata.

So want to try your suggestion COPY MODE ABSOLUTE for now I did in another way.

Rename the node to node_OLD   (all FI are with extension _OLD after it) , 
recreate the node and change the destination to the new storage directory.

After a wild delete the OLD FI and OLD node.

My copypool looks like this:

Policy Domain     Policy Set Name      Mgmt Class Name   Versions Data Exists   
     Versions Data Deleted         Retain Extra Versions          Retain Only 
Version    Copy Mode     Copy Destination

CC                           ACTIVE                      MGCC12                 
  4                                          1                                  
             No Limit                                60                         
         Modified          NET_TSM

So  need to change to

Policy Domain     Policy Set Name      Mgmt Class Name   Versions Data Exists   
     Versions Data Deleted         Retain Extra Versions          Retain Only 
Version    Copy Mode      Copy Destination

CC                           ACTIVE                      MGCC12                 
  4                                          1                                  
             10                                          10                     
             Absolute             V7000_D1

So after 10-11 days all my 3 inactive versions will vanish  from STG NET_TSM 
....... correct >

Best Regards

Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Arbogast, Warren K
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:22 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Copy Mode: Absolute misunderstanding

Hi Thomas,
Thank you for your insight. RETONLY was 60 days during the absolute backups. We 
just reduced it to 30 days this morning when we saw unexpected files on the 
VTL. Perhaps tomorrow the VTL will look better.

Best wishes,
Keith Arbogast
Indiana University






On 1/22/16, 13:11, "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Thomas Denier" <ADSM-L 
AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU on behalf of Thomas.Denier AT JEFFERSON DOT EDU> wrote:

>Is RETONLY also set to 30 days? If RETONLY is longer than 30 days, backup 
>copies some files deleted before the absolute backups would be retained for 
>more than 30 days after the absolute backups.
>
>Thomas Denier
>Thomas Jefferson University
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>Of Arbogast, Warren K
>
>We have implemented directory container pools in TSM version 7.1.4 and are 
>happy with it.  All new backups are written to the DEDUP pool, and old backups 
>are being migrated from the VTL to the DEDUP pool through a process of 
>replicating existing nodes' files to a DEDUP pool on a target server,  then 
>replicating them back to the DEDUP pool on the source server. That process 
>works well.
>
>There is an urgency to empty the storage previously used on the VTL so it can 
>be re-purposed. To hurry the migration to the DEDUP pool along we devised a 
>strategy of running FULL backups (COPY MODE: ABSOLUTE) on certain small 
>servers in policy domains whose destination was the DEDUP pool. That would 
>promote all of a node’s previous backups on the VTL to Inactive status. And, 
>since the pertinent RETAIN EXTRA VERSIONS setting was ’30’, we expected within 
>30 days all inactive versions would be expired and removed from the VTL.
>
>It’s 30 days later, and the strategy did not work perfectly. There are 
>thousands of files remaining on the VTL for nodes which had  a COPY MODE: 
>ABSOLUTE backup.
>
>What am I misunderstanding about COPY MODE: ABSOLUTE?  I had understood it 
>would force a 100% full backup, with no mitigation by include and exclude  
>statements. Apparently that’s not the case. Could someone clarify how it works?
>
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