Re: [ADSM-L] Re: Disk layout for AIX
2015-07-15 17:54:06
on AIX more LUNs/hdisks is better. There are some resources allocated per
hdisk, where you want more. Set up 4 or 8 VG's for database. Growing database
filesystems is easier than adding more.
Op 15 jul. 2015, om 16:23 heeft David Bronder <david-bronder AT UIOWA DOT EDU>
het volgende geschreven:
> Same number of LUNs in fewer VGs, or fewer LUNs, too? The queuing concern
> makes it sound like fewer LUNs. If so, as Rick says, that's also where your
> I/O concurrency would suffer.
>
> If it's the same number of LUNs, using one VG per LUN makes it easier to
> isolate each LV to each PV rather than potentially mixing them all together,
> possibly having multiple LVs share the same PV, which could result in
> database I/O to different DB2 volumes hitting the same PV and causing extra
> contention. (To be fair, in modern SAN arrays, the consumer host has no idea
> where any of the blocks really live in the back end, so that kind of
> contention can and probably often does happen anyway.)
>
> My gut reaction with DB2 on TSM 6 and up is that nothing with the database
> layout is as easily fixed as it was with the embedded database in TSM 5 and
> earlier... :-/ There's always trade-offs...
>
> =Dave
>
>
> On 07/15/2015 09:15 AM, Rhodes, Richard L. wrote:
>> The concurrency I'm aware of is at the hdisk/lun level. There's a
>> num_cmd_elems at on the fcs adapter which we set to 2k, and then queue_depth
>> on the hdisk. That's why spreading I/O across as many hdisks/luns as
>> possible is advantageous.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Huebner, Andy
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:33 AM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Re: Disk layout for AIX
>>
>> He claims there is a queuing issue with too many at the HBA. I guess I
>> missed that the last 12 years of being a storage/TSM admin.
>> I told him the theory of using many was to allow more concurrency. Before
>> we build I just want make sure this is not a mistake that cannot be easily
>> fixed.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy Huebner
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>> Of David Ehresman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:12 AM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Disk layout for AIX
>>
>> VGs are cheap. Why does your AIX admin want to reduce the number of VGs?
>>
>> David Ehresman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
>> Of Huebner, Andy
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:03 AM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Disk layout for AIX
>>
>> I have an AIX admin that wants to build my new TSM server using two VGs for
>> the database (6 file systems) and one VG for the various logs.
>> We currently have 6 VGs for the DB and 3 VGs for the logs. Each VG contains
>> 1 file system.
>>
>> The DB is about 375GB and the new hardware is a P8.
>>
>> No TSM de-dup.
>>
>> Should I be concerned about the DB setup?
>>
>>
>> Andy Huebner
>>
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