Thanks for the tip about ALMS.  I saw it and figured I would need it.....

As for replacing the TS1130 with TS1140 - .  The cost is way out there.  We
just added 3-new TS1130 and upgraded some TS1120's withing the past
6-months.  My money guy did the math.  The cost to replace 1200 JA tapes
and get 4-TS1140 drives, with our educational discount, would run ~$235K on
top of the library cost.  Plus he made some comment about the data transfer
rate of the TS1140 is less than/not as good as the TS1130 drives.

With 7-TSM servers (with more TSM servers in my future to address the need
to backup many thousands of faculty/staff/student "desktops") transferring
data from disk-to-tape, all day long, I need spindles not necessarily
storage capacity.  We currently have 17-TS1130 drives and more than half
are in use, constantly (I have one Notes server that backs up >9TB every
2-weeks)

Thanks for the suggestion.....

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Steven Harris <steve AT stevenharris DOT 
info>wrote:

> Zoltan,
>
> Please make your life easier by spending the small additional amount to
> get ALMS.  It makes using the library so much simpler. Also for any
> advanced features, such as Storage frames you will find it is required.
>
> I'd suggest you upgrade to TS1140s while you are changing the library.
> Using ALMS you can partition the library your 3592E06 (TS1130 format)
> tapes are in one partition and the 3592E07 (TS1140) tapes are in
> another.  This is the recommended way to deal with mixed formats.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
> Steven Harris
> TSM Admin
> Canberra Australia.
>
>
>  Yep, pretty much that simple.
>>
>> Check the tapes out of one library, check them into another.
>> No more complicated than if you are going to a DR site that has a 3584
>> rather than a 3494.
>> TSM doesn't care.
>>
>> There are some differences in the library management:
>>
>> If you are talking to the 3494 library interface via TCP/IP now, that
>> changes.  (Some people use the TCP/IP interface, some use a serial cable.)
>> TSM talks to the 3584 library via the atape drive over the fibre, it has
>> its own device number/path.
>>
>> Thomas already mentioned that the 3584 can be partitioned into logical
>> libraries.
>> If you have multiple TSM servers or other apps using the 3494, you keep
>> them separated now by 3494 category codes, those go away.
>> You have the logical libraries now instead.  Carts get assigned to the
>> logical libraries based on a volser range filter in the library interface.
>>
>> W
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Zoltan Forray
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:08 PM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Tape library possible replacement - push/pull
>>
>> We are starting to examine the idea of replacing our aging 3494 (installed
>> 1995) due to difficulty in getting parts and having more frequent outages
>> due to robot issues.
>>
>> Since we have 17-TS1130 drives, the natural transition would be to a
>> TS3500/3584.
>>
>> If we go down this route, one issue might be the floorspace/placement,
>>  which might require a weekend eject-push-pull-reload.
>>
>> Never having dealt with any tape library other than the 3494, I am trying
>> to collect as much info as I can on doing a swap-out.
>>
>> Is it as simple as defining the new library, moving the drives/paths to
>> it,  changing the devclass to point to the new library, checkin everything
>> (scratch/private)??  Am I missing anything?
>>
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