This is a familiar battleground! I have many wounds from this particular
war.
It seems to afflict the NT world although I have experienced in the Unix
world too.
For some reason Netware administration is not so militant.

It's mostly a control issue. Remember, YOU CAN"T BE TRUSTED!
THIS IS SENSITIVE INFORMATION. Zey sink you may be a spy ;-)
Do you have papers to prove these are your papers.... I digress...

Anyway...
This keeps them happy until they need their crap back.
What our data security people don't realize is that if the data goes bye-bye
they are securing squat! You are an integral part of the data security model
even though they won't let you play in their sand box.

You have made the argument. I would bug someone with the rights to the NT
boxes
everyday to let you in, even if you don't really do anything, until they
complain that
you need rights.

Anyway, welcome to the wonderful world of ADSM/TSM.
it's a jungle out there kiddies!

CR
__________________________________________________
Cris Robinson
Sr. Technical Analyst
Enterprise Storage Management / TSM (ADSM)
Liberty Mutual Insurance
Portsmouth, New Hampshire
603.431.8400.54837
mailto:cris.robinson AT libertymutual DOT com

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Lisa Cabanas [SMTP:CABANL AT MAIL.MODOT.STATE.MO DOT US]
        Sent:   Thursday, October 07, 1999 9:43 AM
        To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
        Subject:        Plea for ammo-

        I have just entered the world  of ADSM (been in this position six
weeks), and I
        am now embroiled in a holy war with my current supervisor over NT
admin rights.
        I have access to all of the data that we back up-- I am the ADSM
admin- I hold
        the key to the BIG DOOR, so you wouldn't think that this would be an
issue (but
        it is).  My supervisor thinks that I can do my job efficiently
without having
        admin rights on the NT server clients.  I have root to all the AIX
ADSM servers.
        Would you kind, experienced gurus, who have been in the real world
(read-- NOT
        state government) please provide me the ammunition to bolster my
argument that I
        should have admin access to the NT boxen?  The thing that really
sucks is that
        our manager has already told him I needed the access to do my job.
That was
        three weeks ago, and nothing has changed.  My frustration is
reaching a level of
        which I am unwilling to accept. And I am willing to push the
envelope for a
        short time, but I'll be looking for a new job *really* soon if I
can't get this
        resolved.

        tia
        lisa