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On 5/16/06, Ed Wilts <ewilts AT ewilts DOT org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:05:51PM -0400, Paul Keating wrote:
> > Honestly though, that smacks of management thinking Linux is free (as i=
n
> > beer) rather than free (as in speech.)
>
> Not my management.
>
> > Any question like that coming from mgmt is usually related to percieved
> > dollar savings.
>
> The perceived dollar savings is typically in the hardware, not the
> software. We pay as much, if not more, for Red Hat Enterprise Linux
> subscriptions than we do for our Microsoft Windows licenses - it's all
> the add-ons to Windows that really kill you. When comparing hardware
> though, Intel-based systems are cheaper than Sparc-based systems.
*nod* Not to mention that x86 and x86_64 runs circles around sparc.
Although isn't windows 2003 > $2k whereas rhes 4 is $350 for basic support?
Well, we're already committed down the RHEL4 / NBU 5.1 road, and it's been
working out great so far. What a relief being off the 2000 era E450 and
R420R's! Symantec would not provide much in they way of providing steps
needed to migrate from Solaris to Linux insisting that PS absolutely had to
be involved. I did it myself. It wasn't really that difficult. We're usin=
g
CentOS, but due to Symantec only supporting the packages that Redhat builds=
,
I have to install the genuine article if I want my support calls answered.
Planning on doing that in a week or so.
Any remaining infrastructure suns in our datacenter are all going out the
door. We still have a few suns and windows servers for a *few* specific
application needs, but we're a linux shop. All engineers here use Linux.
Management and finance types use windows.
.../Ed
>
> --
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org
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On 5/16/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Ed Wilts</b> <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org">ewilts AT ewilts DOT org</a>> wrote:<div><span
class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1=
px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"=
>
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:05:51PM -0400, Paul Keating wrote:<br>> Hones=
tly though, that smacks of management thinking Linux is free (as in<br>>=
beer) rather than free (as in speech.)<br><br>Not my management.<br><br>
> Any question like that coming from mgmt is usually related to percieve=
d<br>> dollar savings.<br><br>The perceived dollar savings is typically =
in the hardware, not the<br>software. We pay as much, if not mor=
e, for Red Hat Enterprise Linux
<br>subscriptions than we do for our Microsoft Windows licenses - it's all<=
br>the add-ons to Windows that really kill you. When comparing h=
ardware<br>though, Intel-based systems are cheaper than Sparc-based systems=
.</blockquote>
<div><br>*nod* Not to mention that x86 and x86_64 runs circles around=
sparc. Although isn't windows 2003 > $2k whereas rhes 4 is $350 f=
or basic support?<br><br></div>Well, we're already committed down the RHEL4=
/ NBU=20
5.1 road, and it's been working out great so far. What a relief being=
off the 2000 era E450 and R420R's! Symantec would not provide much i=
n they way of providing steps needed to migrate from Solaris to Linux insis=
ting that PS absolutely had to be involved. I did it myself. It wasn'=
t really that difficult. We're using CentOS, but due to Symantec only=
supporting the packages that Redhat builds, I have to install the genuine =
article if I want my support calls answered. Planning on doing that i=
n a week or so.
<br><br>Any remaining infrastructure suns in our datacenter are all going o=
ut the door. We still have a few suns and windows servers for a *few*=
specific application needs, but we're a linux shop. All engineers he=
re use Linux. Management and finance types use windows.
<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid r=
gb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> &nb=
sp; .../Ed<br><br>--<br>Ed Wilts, Mounds=
View, MN, USA<br>mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org">
ewilts AT ewilts DOT
org</a><br>_______________________________________________<br=
>Veritas-bu maillist - <a href=3D"mailto:Veritas-bu@m=
ailman.eng.auburn.edu">Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a><br><a
href=3D"=
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu";>
http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu</a><br></blockquo=
te></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>-Tim, Transmeta<br>
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