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FW: [Veritas-bu] SIZE/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and slow duplications

2001-08-10 12:33:13
Subject: FW: [Veritas-bu] SIZE/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and slow duplications
From: SJACOBSO AT novell DOT com (Scott Jacobson)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:33:13 -0600
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Andy,

NT can only support the following maximum values:

NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS =3D 16
SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS =3D 65536

If you make them larger you probably start seeing error code 84 (media =
write failure).

Scott J.

>>> "Andy Skates" <andyskates AT iname DOT com> 08/10/01 12:42AM >>>


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Skates [mailto:andyskates AT iname DOT com]
Sent: 10 August 2001 07:22
To: 'larry.kingery AT veritas DOT com'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SIZE/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and slow duplications


Reading the Technote on this subject, I got the impression that
you have to change the NET_BUFFER_SZ setting on ALL the NBU
servers AND the clients. Do you know if this is the case?



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Kingery [mailto:larry.kingery AT veritas DOT com]
Sent: 09 August 2001 15:55
To: Andy Skates
Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SIZE/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and slow duplications


Since I just saw this elsewhere with duplication on NT, I'd suggest
setting the NET_BUFFER_SZ up on the media server (if it isn't already)
which is doing the duplication.


Andy Skates writes:
> We have 10 x 9840 FC tapes drives attached to Brocade Silkworm
> switches. We're running NBU DataCentre 3.4 under NT 4.
>
> I'm not so worried about our backup times, however, we are getting
> really slow duplication times, and I mean really slow!
>
> Our backups are multiplexed and we're using BPVault to do
> our duplication, with multiplexing set to 1.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1.    Are other people getting slow throughput when duplicating?
>
> 2.    Has anyone tried turning off multiplexing for the duplicates to =
see
>     if this improves times?
>
> 3.    Does the entry in BPTM 10:57:39 [244.376] <2> mpx_read_data:
>     waited for empty buffer 17844 times, delayed 34819 times indicate
>     that I need to try tuning the size/number of data buffers.
>
>     If so has anyone tried doing this in an environment with NT 4 NBU
servers,
>     Brocade Silkworm SAN switches and FC attached 9840s?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy Skates
> Legal & General Assurance PLC
>
> andyskates AT iname DOT com
>
>
>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D1>Andy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1>NT can only support the following maximum values:</FONT=
></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1></FONT><FONT size=3D1>NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS =3D =
16</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1>SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS =3D 65536</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1>If you make them larger you probably start seeing =
error code=20
84 (media write failure).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D1>Scott J.</FONT><BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Andy =
Skates&quot;=20
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Skates=20
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[Veritas-bu] SIZE/NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and slow duplications<BR><BR><BR>Read=
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Kingery [<A=20
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09 August 2001 15:55<BR>To: Andy Skates<BR>Cc:=20
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR>Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu]=20
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duplication.<BR><BR><BR>Andy Skates writes:<BR>&gt; We have 10 x 9840 FC =
tapes=20
drives attached to Brocade Silkworm<BR>&gt; switches. We're running NBU=20
DataCentre 3.4 under NT 4.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I'm not so worried about our =
backup=20
times, however, we are getting<BR>&gt; really slow duplication times, and =
I mean=20
really slow!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Our backups are multiplexed and we're using =
BPVault=20
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questions are:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are other people =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; waited for empty buffer 17844 times, delayed 34819 =
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this in an environment with NT 4 NBU<BR>servers,<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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Brocade Silkworm SAN switches and FC attached 9840s?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt=
;=20
Thanks,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Andy Skates<BR>&gt; Legal &amp; General =
Assurance=20
PLC<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; andyskates AT iname DOT 
com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20=

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