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Re: [Networker] backing up vmware (esx3) from Legato, guests, hosts, does it work best practices?

2007-04-02 10:27:42
Subject: Re: [Networker] backing up vmware (esx3) from Legato, guests, hosts, does it work best practices?
From: David Mingia <dmingia AT GUILFORD DOT EDU>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 10:25:02 -0400
We have the same dilemma...so, some post on this issue would be a good
thing.
I hear of some rumor that on VMWare v 2.X there were scripts floating
around to do it, but they don't work on 3.x

Right now we are also resolving the issue the way you are and installing a
client on each instance of virtual server.  There has got to be a better
cost effective way to do this.  (Are you listening Legato??)

David Mingia
Networks and Server Specialist
dmingia AT guilford DOT edu
Guilford College
5800 W. Friendly Ave.
Greensboro, NC  27410
336-316-2424




                                                                           
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backing up vmware (esx3) from Legato, guests, hosts, does it work best
practices?

1. We are adding VMware servers ESX, into our network.  We are taking
physical machines, and turning them into VMs.
2. We want to back up the clients (guests) running on them.  (it would be
nice to be able to leave them up 24/7)
a. I could just install the Legato client on each... plan not to back them
up all at the same time and cause stress to the ESX server...
...or...
b. Do something more tricky.
c. is it possible without downing the client/guest to make a backup of a
Live machine?

3. I'd like to backup the Host/physical machines, per the Vmware guy this
is something Vmware Marketing talked about being possible with Networker,
but I don't know the details.

What have you all learned?

[You know that you've been on the forums too long when names begin to be
very familiar :) ]



I'm pulling the below  from
http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=55440&sid=891ac519955253c4f529b59219652f43



Well, it appears that contrary to the VMWare documentation, you can
not back up a vmware esx3 vmfs file system with any version of
networker. According to all of the literature from EMC on this you
should be able to do it. In reality, you can't and according to VMWare
support it is not supported. The case has been closed on the VMWare
side and if there is anything on the Networker front, I'll let you
know.

Ken

On 3/16/07, Ken Gehring <ken.gehring AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

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