On Friday 05 November 2010 14:52:32 Kern Sibbald wrote:
> On Friday 05 November 2010 14:08:37 Heitor Medrado de Faria wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > Each new Bacula Enterprise feature, like the: New GUI Configurator,
> > makes me feel that Bacula project will die.
> > It's very frustrating that a project that become a huge success being a
> > free software, is being destroyed like that.
> > I acknowledge that Kern and other developers had lots of development
> > work on Bacula - and there is not huge contribution. But creating a paid
> > fork is not the way of get compensation.
>
> Bacula Systems has financed additional features and has created an
> Enterprise version that is available to subscribers.
>
> All community contributions including most Bacula Systems contributions go
> into the community version which is available to everyone.
>
> For two years we were putting everything into the community version, but
> the company will not survive that is very clear -- Bacula Systems spends
> more than CHF 50,000 / month in salaries and other costs. Very few people
> or companies are willing to finance this for something that is free.
>
> You complain, but you suggest no viable alternatives. I nolonger want to be
> the only person contributing most to Bacula and fixing most of the bugs. So
> If Bacula Systems fails, the project will most likely die, stagnate, or the
> code reliablity will become so bad in a few years that no one will want to
> use it.
>
> I have spent 15 years contributing everything I do to Open Source, 10 of
> those years to Bacula. Other people have done more, but for me that is a
> lot! All the code I continue t contribute is Open Source, but I choose not
> to give all of it to everyone today, because I want to see Bacula continue
> -- the only way to do so is to ensure that Bacula Systems continues. Both
> Bacula Systems and I could make the code proprietary as do virtually all
> other projects that include support. We have chosen to continue writing
> Open Source, which has a lot of risks.
>
> I find it ungrateful of you to complain about a not getting everything you
> want for free -- especially when Bacula Systems has contributed *far* more
> than the community in creating version 5.0.x. One of the projects I am
> working on for the next community release is restarting failed jobs. When
> I hear statements and complaints such as yours, it makes me wonder why I
> shouldn't just put that code only into the Enterprise version.
Just so it is really clear, I had and have no intention of putting Restarting
Failed Jobs only into the Enterprise version.
Kern
>
> Had you attended the recent Bacula conference, you would have had ample
> time to discuss these points and to hear what I and other users say.
>
> If you want these features, why don't you submit the code for them or
> stimulate the community to do so. Anything that comes from the community
> will be available to the community, and this is generally after we invest a
> significant amount of time correcting the code, debugging it, testing it,
> releasing it, documenting the new features, and then later supporting it
> with bug fixes. I have the feeling that most people are unaware of the
> amount of work that goes into creating and supporting Bacula -- even with
> features contributed by the community.
>
> The Bacula project will only die if Bacula Systems fails and the community
> does not make more contributions.
>
> So please stop complaining, and be happy that Bacula Systems is
> contributing to the Bacula project, and that all of Bacula Systems code is
> Open Source, even if everyone doesn't get everything for free. This is far
> better than us taking the code proprietary as other projects are doing.
> Continuing to complain may well contribute to the Bacula project dying.
>
>
> Kern
>
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