David, a little of my history with tsm is in order.

I have been with it since v1 r1.  Back then there wasn't any audit license 
command or
any other tool to tell me what the usage was.  I asked the salesman how to 
figure it
out and he had no clue either.

I developed my own reports using db2 (tsm didn't have sql until v3) to get a 
count
of nodes in use and to license accordingly.

Consequently, I have never relied on the audit license table;  I set the 
mansyslan count to
9999 to keep it from whining at me.  I have always relied on outside info to 
order licenses.

Basically I agree with you; the audit license command does not give meaningful
information, especially since it can't tell which of the servers clients are 
themselves
servers and how many processors are in each.

- bill

At 12:25 PM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
>And none of what you writes makes the TSM software audit of licenses
>meaningful.  You have to know OUTSIDE of what TSM can tell who which
>nodes are desktops and which are servers and how many processors are in
>the server machines.  Then tell TSM uopir are licensed for enough nodes
>to make it shut up because there is no longer a meaninful mapping
>between what the software considers a license and what IBM marketing
>considers a license.
>
>david
>
>>>> bcolwell AT DRAPER DOT COM 3/10/2004 10:23:01 AM >>>
>David,
>
>IBM still does charge by node if you say the node is not a server.
>
>It is up to us, the customers, to characterize the machines to be
>backed up
>and then buy the proper number and kind of licenses.
>
>If you say a machine is a single user desktop, even if it has 2
>processors and
>has more raw power than some of your servers, you need just 1 desktop
>license which
>is about a fifth of the price of a server license.
>
>The TSM pricing model is now function based.  The license to backup a
>server is more
>expensive because the value to you is greater than the value of an end
>user desktop backup.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Bill Colwell
>
>
>At 08:04 AM 3/10/2004, you wrote:
>>Nancy,
>>
>>As far as I can tell it no longer matters what the TSM software
>thinks
>>you have as far as number of nodes; just tell it you have enough to
>make
>>it shut up.
>>
>>The reason it no longer matters is that IBM no longer charges you by
>>node but by processor and the TSM software auditing component does
>not
>>know about processors.  TSM software auditing is a relict of a
>simpler
>>day.
>>
>>David
>>
>>>>> Nancy.Reeves AT WICHITA DOT EDU 3/8/2004 5:30:52 PM >>>
>>We are in the process of ordering a TSM upgrade (from 4.1 to 5.1 or
>>5.2)
>>and are having pricing issues. I ran a license audit to see what we
>>are
>>using now and it showed 108 "Managed System for LAN" licenses in use
>>(of
>>200), but we only have 78 nodes registered. I do not understand the
>>discrepancy. Can anyone explain it to me?
>>
>>
>>Nancy Reeves
>>Technical Support, Wichita State University
>>Nancy.Reeves AT wichita DOT edu          316-978-3860
>
>----------
>Bill Colwell
>C. S. Draper Lab
>Cambridge Ma.

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Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.