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[Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4

2007-05-10 16:12:07
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4
From: liddles at amgen.com (Liddle, Stuart)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:12:07 -0700
Jeff,

 

I think you mis-understood my comments....our situation might not be
applicable to others.  

 

Since we have very strict change control for our systems (i.e. lots of
paperwork and lead time) and given that it will take us literally months to
get things planned, tested, approved, etc (to say nothing of getting all of
the existing clients up to version 5.1 so that we are not more than 1 rev
back from the new version)....then there's really no difference for us to go
to 6.5 instead of 6.0.   In fact, if both are available at the time that we
decide to make the upgrade, then 6.5 will be the better choice for us.

 

Now, if you are in a situation where you can quickly jump from 5.1 to 6.0
and then go to 6.5, then that's probably a good move given all of the
reasons that you mention below.  We are just not in that situation.

 

Our biggest delay in doing any upgrades is getting our client systems to use
the newer version of the NetBackup client so that we are all on the same
version of 5.1 BEFORE we do an upgrade to 6.x.  At last count we had over
1700 clients and a large number of them were still running the 4.5 client.

 

--stuart

 

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From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner at water.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:51 AM
To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4

 

A few reasons:

 

A long time ago it became clear that waiting for the next thing was a good
way of never moving forward because something is always in the pipeline.    

 

The next thing is often called "vaporware" because all the bells and
whistles they tell you it is going to have vaporize (disappear) in the
actual release.

 

Vendors don't always meet expected (or even announced) release dates for new
software.

 

You might actually have cycles now to do it that you won't have in the
future.

 

You may be wishing to implement new hardware in your environment (e.g. we're
getting Data Domain) and want to understand any differences the new 

software does to your existing hardware so you'll understand later what was
introduced by the new software and what was introduced by the new hardware.

 

Given the major shift between 5.1 and 6.0 in the way NBU does things
upgrading to 6.5 later will likely not be as major a change (somewhat like
going from 4.5 to 5.1 wasn't that big a deal).

 

Anyway we're just preparing to take the plunge ourselves so I can't say how
easy it is.   My opinions are formed mainly by reading this forum and by
what our (not Symantec) vendor says about it.

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From: Liddle, Stuart [mailto:liddles at amgen.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:19 PM
To: Jeff Lightner; Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington;
veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4

 

We have an environment that is under strict change control and if we are
going to upgrade we are going to wait just a bit longer for the version that
has more features in it.  Why go for 6.0 now, when you might want to do the
upgrade to 6.5 in just a few months?

 

--stuart

 

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From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:jlightner at water.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:12 AM
To: Liddle, Stuart; Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4

 

Why?   I was under the impression 6.0 MP4 was fairly stable.  

 

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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Liddle,
Stuart
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:00 PM
To: Mike Wigington; veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0
MP4

 

yeah....wait for 6.5, that's what we are doing

 

--stuart

 

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From: veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Mike
Wigington
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:55 AM
To: veritas-bu at mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Taking the plunge to upgrade from 5.1 MP4 to 6.0 MP4

 

Can anyone give advise on upgrading from NBU5.1 MP 4 to NBU6.0 MP4? 

TIA,
Mike Wig

 

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