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I setup 4 schedules for all Windows Policy's -
NT-Daily = Monday - Thursday Calendar Based -
NT-Weekly = Calendar based - Recurring the Last Friday of weeks 1,2,3,4
Leaving off the 5th Friday if that Month has a 5th its for the Monthly.
NT-Monthly = Calendar Based - Recurring the Last Friday of the Month. Note
if the Month has 5 weeks there is no overlap - check notes at the bottom,
NT-Yearly = Last Friday of December - Calendar based.
HERE IS THE KICKER - In the NT-WEEKLY schedule I Excluded the Last Friday
of the Month for the
Months that only have 4 Friday's in them. So the Monthly can run on that
day the last Friday of the Month -
This has been working very well and I have had no problems.
Also, for the yearly' I just go to the NT-Weekly and NT-Monthly schedules
and exclude the last Friday of December
To allow for the Yearly to run without overlap.
The Allow Retries after run day to be checked I found is a good thing -
specially If the backup is scheduled
To start Friday through Saturday window - But the backup fails and tries to
start over on Saturday it wont start
If the allow restart after run day is not checked even if you have the start
time to go through Saturday or Sunday the
Backups will not restart after Friday if the start day is Friday.
I setup individual media pools for NT-Daily, NT-Weekly, NT-Monthly and
NT-Yearly -
I have a very similar setup for the HP/UNIX systems on the same Veritas
Windows Master Server.
Eric Ljungblad
Computer Operator
Copley Information Services
7701 Herschel Ave
La Jolla, California 90037
<mailto:Eric.Ljungblad AT copleypress DOT com> Eric.Ljungblad AT copleypress
DOT com
(858) 729-8010
-----Original Message-----
From: Zermeno, Brandon (Contractor) [mailto:BZERMENO AT intersil DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:24 AM
To: Paul Keating; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Month End and Weekly Backup
They cant run on a 4 week schedule. Our backup schedule is set by the
accounting calendar. It turns out to be a 4 / 5 week timeframe. But wouldn't
both jobs run at the same time?
_____
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Paul
Keating
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:03 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Month End and Weekly Backup
put two schedules in the policy to run at the same time.
Monthly one with a 1 year retention with a 4 week frequency
Weekly one with a 3 month retention and 1 week frequency.
every 4th week, the Monthly will run instead of the Weekly schedule.
you can specify different pools per sched. if you wish (override default)
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Zermeno,
Brandon (Contractor)
Sent: February 10, 2005 1:57 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Month End and Weekly Backup
What is the "best practice" on handling the Month end backups and the weekly
backups? What I mean is, I have Full Weekly's that are retained for 3
months, but I also have to squeeze in the Month Ends that are retained for 1
year. How are you dealing with this? I have about 70 policies with 7 master
servers. We have a ton of apps that all require different settings. I have
just been going in and modifying the retention period of the weekly's to 1
year but this is getting old. I am thinking of doing inline copies to a
different pool. Any ideas.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I setup 4 schedules for all Windows
Policy's
-</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NT-Daily = Monday - Thursday Calendar
Based -</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NT-Weekly = Calendar based -
Recurring the Last Friday of weeks 1,2,3,4 Leaving off the 5<sup>th</sup>
Friday if that Month has a 5<sup>th</sup> its for the Monthly.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NT-Monthly = Calendar Based -
Recurring the Last Friday of the Month. Note if the Month has 5 weeks
there is no overlap - check notes at the bottom,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NT-Yearly = Last Friday of December -
Calendar based. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HERE IS THE KICKER - In the
NT-WEEKLY schedule I Excluded the Last Friday of the Month for
the</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Months that only have 4 Friday's in
them. So the Monthly can run on that day the last Friday of the Month
-</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This has been working very well and I have
had no problems.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, for the yearly' I just
go to the NT-Weekly and NT-Monthly schedules and exclude the last Friday of
December</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To allow for the Yearly to run without
overlap.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Allow Retries after run day to be
checked I found is a good thing - specially If the backup is
scheduled</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To start Friday through Saturday window -
But the backup fails and tries to start over on Saturday it wont start
</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If the allow restart after run day is not
checked even if you have the start time to go through Saturday or Sunday the
</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Backups will not restart after Friday if
the start day is Friday.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I setup individual media pools for
</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>NT-Daily</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>NT</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Weekly, NT-Monthly and
NT-Yearly -</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have a very similar setup for the
HP/UNIX systems on the same Veritas Windows Master Server.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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<p><b><i><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Eric
Ljungblad </span></font></i></b><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <br>
Computer Operator<br>
Copley Information Services</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>7701 Herschel Ave</span></font><font
color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>La Jolla, California 90037<br>
</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><a
href="mailto:Eric.Ljungblad AT copleypress DOT com"><font size=2
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Eric.Ljungblad AT copleypress DOT
com</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><br>
(858) 729-8010</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>
</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Zermeno, Brandon
(Contractor) [mailto:BZERMENO AT intersil DOT com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 10, 2005
11:24 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Paul Keating;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] Month
End and Weekly Backup</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They cant run on a 4 week
schedule. Our backup schedule is set by the accounting calendar. It turns out
to be a 4 / 5 week timeframe. But wouldn't both jobs run at the same
time?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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<div class=MsoNormal align=center
style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></font></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Keating<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 10, 2005
2:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] Month
End and Weekly Backup</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>put
two schedules in the policy to run at the same time.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Monthly
one with a 1 year retention with a 4 week frequency</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Weekly
one with a 3 month retention and 1 week frequency.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>every
4th week, the Monthly will run instead of the Weekly schedule.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>you
can specify different pools per sched. if you wish (override
default)</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New
Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=maroon
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon'>Paul</span></font></p>
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.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Zermeno, Brandon (Contractor)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> February 10, 2005 1:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> veritas-bu AT
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] Month End
and Weekly Backup</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>What is the "best
practice" on handling the Month end backups and the weekly backups? What
I mean is, I have Full Weekly's that are retained for 3 months, but I
also have to squeeze in the Month Ends that are retained for 1 year. How are
you dealing with this? I have about 70 policies with 7 master servers. We have
a ton of apps that all require different settings. I have just been going in
and modifying the retention period of the weekly's to 1 year but this is
getting old. I am thinking of doing inline copies to a different pool. Any
ideas.</span></font></p>
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