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Have you checked if they support STK 9840 and/or STK 9940 drives?
We use 9940 FC and they work great. No problems a all and they are fast and
they can take the beating in a large shop.
Is all the data on one server and do you have to do this daily?
If you have to run this daily I would look at STK for a solution.
Do you know the 9840 and 9940 drives?
What library are you using? If you use 9840 you will ned aroun 150 tapes
and around 50 if you use 9940.
If I could get the 9940 drives to work with SGI I would use and STK L700
robot and 8-10 9940 FC drives connected to a Silkworm 2900 switch and using
4 HBA's in the SGI box that should fix the problem.
On a Irix 6.5 man page i found this about STK 9840 and 9940:
/usr/etc/ts/ts9840 for STK 9840 and STK 9940
So if I understand this right you should be able to get STK 9840 or STK
9940 to run under Irix 6.5
I don't know how big your shop is, but I would expect PG to use StorageTek
Powderhorn libraries and 9840 or 9940 drives.
If you use SAN use the FC version of the tapedrives.
At 17:16 24-01-2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Actually that is what I am asking the bundle right now... They do not have too
>good of an idea on that yet.. SGI does not like to support too many different
>kinds of hardware I gather.. I wish it was on a solaris :)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Yucel
>
>---------------------------------------------------------
>Yucel M. Erbilgic
>erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com
>(513) 945-1859
>
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>From: Johnny Oestergaard <joe AT joe DOT net> on 01/24/2002 09:51 PM GMT
>
> Johnny Oestergaard To: Yucel Erbilgic-YM/PGI
> <joe AT joe DOT net> Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn
> DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SGI and Netbackup/
> Drive problems with LTO
> 01/24/2002 04:51 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>If I understand you right you need to pull 500 GB/hour.
>That should be around 140 MB/s and you would need a bandwith of at least 2
>Gbit/s network for that.
>
>I don't know LTO drives, but I know that the STK 9840 and 9940 can take
>that kind of data without any problem day after day.
>I have seen people use STK 9840 and 9940 and getting 35 MB/s to the tape
>but that is a max. and depends mostly on your data.
>If I had to do it in our shop (and we only have 750 GB disk) I would use
>some 8 to 10 STK 9940 drives pulling the data directly from the server over
>the SAN to the tape drives.
>
>This should work fine with Sun, but I don't know anything about SGI
>
>Is all the data on one server and is it something you need to do daily?
>
>/johnny
>
>At 12:20 24-01-2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Hmm,
> >
> >Any sugestions to backup 5 TB over the network in 10 hours ;)
> >I guess now they are supporting (or trying to) 3250 and
> >Seagate... Perhaps the
> >way out is direct SCSI attachment.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Yucel
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------
> >Yucel M. Erbilgic
> >erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com
> >(513) 945-1859
> >
> >
> >From: Andrew Shinkarev <shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com> on 01/24/2002 05:03
> >PM GMT
> >
> >
> > Andrew Shinkarev To: Yucel
> > Erbilgic-YM/PGI
> > <shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com> Cc:
> > Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SGI and
> > Netbackup/
> > Drive problems with
> > LTO
> > 01/24/2002 12:03
> > PM
> > Please respond to
> > Andrew
> > Shinkarev
> >
> > <shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:36:19AM -0500, erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com wrote:
> >
> >Just backup you SGI boxes over network and you will be fine.
> >The only supported SAN configuration by SGI is
> >FC-ready STK tape drives, at least it was 6 months ago.
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Does anyone use LTO (seagate) with SGI? What about over fibre with
> > > STK/Crossroads briges, qlogic card?
> > >
> > > I am having some problems ;)
> > > 1st only one drive per bridge shows up, if there is more than one, the
> > > scsi/hwpath is created but the corresponding /dev/rmt/tpsXXYYZZ is not...
> >Does
> > > not show up on hinv -vmm either.. (sounds like a MAKEDEV bug).
> > >
> > > 2nd I can do a mt -f /dev/rmt/tps** status, but unload etc. times
> out: As
> >well
> > > as the Sense information... I note the ql (qlogic probibly) rather
> > than the
> >tps
> > > in there too... Needless to say my robotics work mighty fine.
> > >
> > > Jan 24 10:00:36 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: 0x12, notified
> > demon t
> > > o abort iocb, port id 0xe8
> > > Jan 24 10:00:36 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: abort of iocb
> > complete
> > > , port id 0xe8
> > > Jan 24 10:02:21 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: 0x12, notified
> > demon t
> > > o abort iocb, port id 0xe8
> > > Jan 24 10:02:21 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: abort of iocb
> > complete
> > > , port id 0xe8
> > >
> > > Any one running into the same problems? Also which special file do
> you all
> >use
> > > for LTO/netbackup? /rmt/tps*****nrvc,? nrcsc etc??
> > >
> > > Any help would be appriciated.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Yucel
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > Yucel M. Erbilgic
> > > erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com
> > > (513) 945-1859
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> >Network Systems Specialist
> >Abbott Laboratories
> >(847) 9387559
> >shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com
> >
> >
> >
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Have you checked if they support STK 9840 and/or STK 9940 drives?<br>
We use 9940 FC and they work great. No problems a all and they are fast
and they can take the beating in a large shop.<br><br>
Is all the data on one server and do you have to do this daily?<br><br>
If you have to run this daily I would look at STK for a solution.<br>
Do you know the 9840 and 9940 drives?<br><br>
What library are you using? If you use 9840 you will ned aroun 150 tapes
and around 50 if you use 9940.<br><br>
If I could get the 9940 drives to work with SGI I would use and STK L700
robot and 8-10 9940 FC drives connected to a Silkworm 2900 switch and
using 4 HBA's in the SGI box that should fix the problem.<br><br>
On a Irix 6.5 man page i found this about STK 9840 and 9940:<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier"><b>/usr/etc/ts/ts9840</b> for STK 9840
and STK 9940 <br><br>
</font>So if I understand this right you should be able to get STK 9840
or STK 9940 to run under Irix 6.5<br><br>
I don't know how big your shop is, but I would expect PG to use
StorageTek Powderhorn libraries and 9840 or 9940 drives.<br>
If you use SAN use the FC version of the tapedrives.<br><br>
At 17:16 24-01-2002 -0500, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Actually that is what I am asking
the bundle right now... They do not have too<br>
good of an idea on that yet.. SGI does not like to support too many
different<br>
kinds of hardware I gather.. I wish it was on a solaris
:)<br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
Yucel<br><br>
---------------------------------------------------------<br>
Yucel M. Erbilgic<br>
erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com<br>
(513) 945-1859<br><br>
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Johnny
Oestergaard
To: Yucel
Erbilgic-YM/PGI
<br>
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Cc: Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SGI and
Netbackup/ <br>
Drive problems with
LTO
<br>
01/24/2002 04:51
PM
<br>
<br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
If I understand you right you need to pull 500 GB/hour.<br>
That should be around 140 MB/s and you would need a bandwith of at least
2<br>
Gbit/s network for that.<br><br>
I don't know LTO drives, but I know that the STK 9840 and 9940 can
take<br>
that kind of data without any problem day after day.<br>
I have seen people use STK 9840 and 9940 and getting 35 MB/s to the
tape<br>
but that is a max. and depends mostly on your data.<br>
If I had to do it in our shop (and we only have 750 GB disk) I would
use<br>
some 8 to 10 STK 9940 drives pulling the data directly from the server
over<br>
the SAN to the tape drives.<br><br>
This should work fine with Sun, but I don't know anything about
SGI<br><br>
Is all the data on one server and is it something you need to do
daily?<br><br>
/johnny<br><br>
At 12:20 24-01-2002 -0500, you wrote:<br><br>
>Hmm,<br>
><br>
>Any sugestions to backup 5 TB over the network in 10 hours ;)<br>
>I guess now they are supporting (or trying to) 3250 and<br>
>Seagate... Perhaps the<br>
>way out is direct SCSI attachment.<br>
><br>
>Regards,<br>
><br>
>Yucel<br>
><br>
>---------------------------------------------------------<br>
>Yucel M. Erbilgic<br>
>erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com<br>
>(513) 945-1859<br>
><br>
><br>
>From: Andrew Shinkarev <shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com> on 01/24/2002
05:03 PM GMT<br>
><br>
><br>
>
Andrew
Shinkarev
To: Yucel<br>
> Erbilgic-YM/PGI<br>
>
<shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT
com>
Cc:<br>
> Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] SGI and<br>
> Netbackup/<br>
>
Drive problems with<br>
> LTO<br>
> 01/24/2002
12:03<br>
> PM<br>
> Please respond to<br>
> Andrew<br>
>
Shinkarev<br>
><br>
> <shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 11:36:19AM -0500, erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com
wrote:<br>
><br>
>Just backup you SGI boxes over network and you will be fine.<br>
>The only supported SAN configuration by SGI is<br>
>FC-ready STK tape drives, at least it was 6 months ago.<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Does anyone use LTO (seagate) with SGI? What about over
fibre with<br>
> > STK/Crossroads briges, qlogic card?<br>
> ><br>
> > I am having some problems ;)<br>
> > 1st only one drive per bridge shows up, if there is more than
one, the<br>
> > scsi/hwpath is created but the corresponding /dev/rmt/tpsXXYYZZ
is not...<br>
>Does<br>
> > not show up on hinv -vmm either.. (sounds like a MAKEDEV
bug).<br>
> ><br>
> > 2nd I can do a mt -f /dev/rmt/tps** status, but unload etc.
times out: As<br>
>well<br>
> > as the Sense information... I note the ql (qlogic
probibly) rather<br>
> than the<br>
>tps<br>
> > in there too... Needless to say my robotics work mighty
fine.<br>
> ><br>
> > Jan 24 10:00:36 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: 0x12,
notified<br>
> demon t<br>
> > o abort iocb, port id 0xe8<br>
> > Jan 24 10:00:36 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: abort
of iocb<br>
> complete<br>
> > , port id 0xe8<br>
> > Jan 24 10:02:21 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: 0x12,
notified<br>
> demon t<br>
> > o abort iocb, port id 0xe8<br>
> > Jan 24 10:02:21 6A:pie unix: ql15d1l0: command timeout: abort
of iocb<br>
> complete<br>
> > , port id 0xe8<br>
> ><br>
> > Any one running into the same problems? Also which
special file do you all<br>
>use<br>
> > for LTO/netbackup? /rmt/tps*****nrvc,? nrcsc etc??<br>
> ><br>
> > Any help would be appriciated.<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Yucel<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------<br>
> > Yucel M. Erbilgic<br>
> > erbilgic.ym AT pg DOT com<br>
> > (513) 945-1859<br>
> ><br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Veritas-bu maillist -
Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
> >
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>Network Systems Specialist<br>
>Abbott Laboratories<br>
>(847) 9387559<br>
>shinkara AT pprd.abbott DOT com<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>_______________________________________________<br>
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