EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU> wrote on
02/07/2011 02:55:36 PM:
>
> savegrp -l incr -I HalfHourLogs
>
> We run that command for a savegroup that included the SQL databases
> we want log file type backups for as incremental. We run a savegrp
> -O to get the indexes once a day. It only does incremental changes
> (for us we run it every 30 min per the group name).
OK, not the type of backup I was referring to. I meant that if you define
a client in NMC with saveset "MSSQL:"; backup command "nsrsqlsv", and
install the SQL Module on the client - then regardless of the level of the
group that client is in, the backup of the "MSSQL:" saveset would always
be FULL., even if the group is on a schedule that specifies INCR.
I can't test it right now, but that's always been my understanding.
Yes, your way would be an incremental backup, but I don't think that works
on the actual databases, the MDF files, does it? Those aren't INCR
backups, are they?
The type of backup I refer to doesn't use "savegrp", it uses the
"nsrsqlsv" command instead. I never do it manually, I just define it in
NMC and let the system issue the actual command.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> ] On Behalf Of Michael Leone
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 2:42 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] 7.6.1 - Savesets hang
>
> > We do incr for both Exchange and SQL using the SQL Module and NMM
> > for Exchange..maybe you are using the Exchange Module and not NMM,
> > but we have always done incr backups for SQL as "log" backups.
>
> Not following you. I speak of a directive to backup "MSSQL:", and the "
> nsrsqlsv" as the backup command. Are you talking about doing an INCR
> backup of the .TRN and .LOG files, as a regular filesystem backup?
>
> I don't use NMM, no - I use the SQL Module.
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > ] On Behalf Of Michael Leone
> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 1:59 PM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] 7.6.1 - Savesets hang
> >
> > I thought you couldn't do an INCR backup when using the SQL Module -
> that
> > you would always get a FULL backup, regardless of level setting. And
> that
> > the EXCHANGE Modulet worked the same way - always a FULL backup of the
> > Info Store. Reason being that both are database files.
> >
> > Am I wrong about that?
> >
> > FWIW - I run 7.5.2 (upgraded from 7.4.x) and use the SQL Module (both
32
>
> > and 64bit), and have not seen any issues like you describe.
> > --
> > Michael Leone
> > Network Administrator, ISM
> > Philadelphia Housing Authority
> > 2500 Jackson St
> > Philadelphia, PA 19145
> > Tel: 215-684-4180
> > Cell: 215-252-0143
> > <mailto:michael.leone AT pha.phila DOT gov>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Kevin Malone <KCMALONE AT SALISBURY DOT EDU>
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Date: 02/07/2011 01:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] 7.6.1 - Savesets hang
> > Sent by: EMC NetWorker discussion
<NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
> >
> >
> >
> > I am running 7.5.3.2 and have been experiencing SQL backup hangs ever
> > since I upgraded to this version from 7.4.4 over 3 months ago. I have
> > seen hangs on log file (incr) backups of SQL and failures on
> differential
> > and full backups with errors being i/o 995 errors. We have not been
> able
> > to isolate the issue as of yet, and EMC engineering has been looking
> into
> > this for some time. This does not happen with traditional file level
> > backups for the same servers, only with SQL. We can backup SQL to a
> local
> > file and then backup that file with no errors. We use the SQL Module.
I
>
> > have tried lots of combinations of older SQL clients and older NW
client
>
> > versions and are now down to only a couple of clients that have this
> > behavior having downgraded to SQL Module versions 5.0 (for SQL 2005)
or
> > 5.1 (for SQL 2008). This issue happens across all Microsoft OS
> versions,
> > all SQL versions (2005 and 2008) and both 32 and 64 bit.
> >
> > I know this isn't the same issue as yours, Dave, but I am curious if
> > anyone else out there is seeing similar issues with backups
> > hanging/erroring with i/o 995.
> >
> > Kevin Malone
> > Salisbury University
> > Salisbury, Maryland
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT
> > EDU]
On
>
> > Behalf Of Werth, Dave
> > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 12:52 PM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: [Networker] 7.6.1 - Savesets hang
> >
> > We are running NetWorker 7.6.1 Server on Windows 2008 R2 Server. This
> was
> > installed a week ago last Friday. Our old server was 7.5.2.
> >
> > I know this has been discussed before and I've spent some time
searching
>
> > the archives and the EMC PowerLink Knowledge Base without much luck.
> >
> > The problem is that on a somewhat random basis different savesets hang
> > during backups, usually the bigger ones that take longer to backup. I
> can
> > often restart them by going onto the client and killing the save
process
>
> > but sometimes they hang again. Our clients are a mixture of 7.5 and
7.6
>
> > which doesn't seem to make a difference to the problem.
> >
> > Can anyone offer some help to me with the problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave Werth
> > Garmin AT, Inc.
> > Salem, Oregon
> >
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