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Re: [Networker] bacula vs networker

2006-10-10 13:33:34
Subject: Re: [Networker] bacula vs networker
From: Athanasios Douitsis <aduitsis AT NOC.NTUA DOT GR>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:26:26 +0300
Hi Dmitri,Siobhan,

I 'll be sure to check it out. I was under the impression that amanda does not 
span
tapes, but maybe I misunderstood something. 

Thanks a lot for your replies,
Athanasios

On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 11:02:19AM -0700, Dmitri Joukovski wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> If you would like to know more about Amanda, its documentation is
> hosted at http://wiki.zmanda.com. I would be happy to answer any
> Amanda related questions that you may have.
> 
> Regards
> ----------
> Dmitri Joukovski
> 
> On 10/6/06, Siobhαn Ellis <siobhanellis AT hotmail DOT com> wrote:
> >Why not look at zmanada, which is the supported version of Amanda.
> >Basically, if there is no client from zmanda, you can run an Amanda client
> >(Although officially not supported)
> >
> >Siobhαn
> >
> >
> >On 7/10/06 5:11 AM, "John Stoffel" <john.stoffel AT TAEC.TOSHIBA DOT COM> 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Athanasios> I 've been a (relatively) happy user of networker for 6
> >> Athanasios> years. Recently I was tasked to evaluate the possibility
> >> Athanasios> of replacing our networker software with the Bacula
> >> Athanasios> distribution. The reasons which lead to this outcome are:
> >>
> >> Athanasios> 1)We are havily using FreeBSD, which is almost entirely
> >> Athanasios> unsupported by networker.
> >>
> >> Bacula is heavily supported by Kern, the main author.  I run it at
> >> home.  You're in for some shocks though, because while is has most of
> >> the features of Networker in terms of spanning backups across multiple
> >> tapes, multiplexing, staging to disk then to tape, etc it has some
> >> serious downsides in my view.
> >>
> >> 1. bconsole, the cli command tool sucks.  The command set isn't well
> >>    thought out, etc.   You can muddle through it, but it's painful at
> >>    times.
> >>
> >> 2. While the docs are excellent for an open source product, it's
> >>    actually fairly painful to figure out some stuff.   This can
> >>    certainly be addressed, and probably should be at some point.
> >>
> >> 3. Adding a client, or modifying file lists, etc is more involved than
> >>    it really needs to be.
> >>
> >> 4. Restores are a pain, there's no nice equivilent of 'recover'.  It's
> >>    much more painful than that.  Again, this could be addressed in newer
> >>    versions.
> >>
> >> 5. No equivilent to nsrwatch.
> >>
> >> Athanasios> 2)The local EMC representative charges way too much for
> >> Athanasios> only a limited set of enabled features.
> >>
> >> Don't they all!  The price of bacula is certainly right.
> >>
> >> Athanasios> 4)We are not using tape libraries and robots, so we not
> >> Athanasios> too dependent on networker being able to talk to these
> >> Athanasios> kinds of devices.
> >>
> >> The newest version of Bacula is certainly working better and better
> >> with robots, esp those with multiple drives.  It's also working much
> >> better when using DVD media as well.
> >>
> >> Athanasios> Has anyone had any experience with Bacula? Does it stand a
> >> Athanasios> chance against networker?  Has anyone made a successful
> >> Athanasios> transistion to Bacula?
> >>
> >> Not at work, but at home it's been working pretty well I'd say.
> >>
> >> I've been using Networker now since 1994 (4.2.6) and I still like it,
> >> esp the CLI tools such as nsrwatch, etc.
> >>
> >> If you can, setup a new server to run Bacula and run it in parallel
> >> before you do a full cutover.
> >>
> >> Also, what features are most important to you?  You didn't really
> >> spell that out besides OS support.
> >>
> >> John
> >>     John Stoffel - Senior Staff Systems Administrator - System LSI Group
> >>   Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. - 
> >http://www.toshiba.com/taec
> >>     john.stoffel AT taec.toshiba DOT com - 508-486-1087
> >>
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