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Re: [Networker] bacula vs networker

2006-10-09 14:24:38
Subject: Re: [Networker] bacula vs networker
From: Dmitri Joukovski <joukovski AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:02:19 -0700
Hi there,

If you would like to know more about Amanda, its documentation is
hosted at http://wiki.zmanda.com. I would be happy to answer any
Amanda related questions that you may have.

Regards
----------
Dmitri Joukovski

On 10/6/06, Siobhán Ellis <siobhanellis AT hotmail DOT com> wrote:
Why not look at zmanada, which is the supported version of Amanda.
Basically, if there is no client from zmanda, you can run an Amanda client
(Although officially not supported)

Siobhán


On 7/10/06 5:11 AM, "John Stoffel" <john.stoffel AT TAEC.TOSHIBA DOT COM> wrote:

> Athanasios> I 've been a (relatively) happy user of networker for 6
> Athanasios> years. Recently I was tasked to evaluate the possibility
> Athanasios> of replacing our networker software with the Bacula
> Athanasios> distribution. The reasons which lead to this outcome are:
>
> Athanasios> 1)We are havily using FreeBSD, which is almost entirely
> Athanasios> unsupported by networker.
>
> Bacula is heavily supported by Kern, the main author.  I run it at
> home.  You're in for some shocks though, because while is has most of
> the features of Networker in terms of spanning backups across multiple
> tapes, multiplexing, staging to disk then to tape, etc it has some
> serious downsides in my view.
>
> 1. bconsole, the cli command tool sucks.  The command set isn't well
>    thought out, etc.   You can muddle through it, but it's painful at
>    times.
>
> 2. While the docs are excellent for an open source product, it's
>    actually fairly painful to figure out some stuff.   This can
>    certainly be addressed, and probably should be at some point.
>
> 3. Adding a client, or modifying file lists, etc is more involved than
>    it really needs to be.
>
> 4. Restores are a pain, there's no nice equivilent of 'recover'.  It's
>    much more painful than that.  Again, this could be addressed in newer
>    versions.
>
> 5. No equivilent to nsrwatch.
>
> Athanasios> 2)The local EMC representative charges way too much for
> Athanasios> only a limited set of enabled features.
>
> Don't they all!  The price of bacula is certainly right.
>
> Athanasios> 4)We are not using tape libraries and robots, so we not
> Athanasios> too dependent on networker being able to talk to these
> Athanasios> kinds of devices.
>
> The newest version of Bacula is certainly working better and better
> with robots, esp those with multiple drives.  It's also working much
> better when using DVD media as well.
>
> Athanasios> Has anyone had any experience with Bacula? Does it stand a
> Athanasios> chance against networker?  Has anyone made a successful
> Athanasios> transistion to Bacula?
>
> Not at work, but at home it's been working pretty well I'd say.
>
> I've been using Networker now since 1994 (4.2.6) and I still like it,
> esp the CLI tools such as nsrwatch, etc.
>
> If you can, setup a new server to run Bacula and run it in parallel
> before you do a full cutover.
>
> Also, what features are most important to you?  You didn't really
> spell that out besides OS support.
>
> John
>     John Stoffel - Senior Staff Systems Administrator - System LSI Group
>   Toshiba America Electronic Components, Inc. - http://www.toshiba.com/taec
>     john.stoffel AT taec.toshiba DOT com - 508-486-1087
>
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