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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula Status Report
2013-11-26 13:13:11
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Hello,
On 11/26/2013 11:17 AM, Silver Salonen wrote:
Hi Kern.
Thank you for the information and here are some requests for
more details :)
On 25.11.2013 18:49, Kern Sibbald wrote:
2. The Bareos fork of Bacula:
Unfortunately, despite the fact that Bareos hired one of the
best German Open
Source lawyers , there were a number of serious copyright
violations
with their code.
I guess mixing copyright and open source into one sentence makes
several people quite confused, so can you clarify what are the
issues?
All code is licensed one way or another. Virtually all Open Source
code also has a copyright (the GPL is a copyright with
a license). I would not like to burden this list with
copyright/license details, so I will do so in my blog
in detail, and besides right now I am "on vacation" so please excuse
me for not giving any more
details at the moment.
Is
it, for instance, that Bareos wants to change license of the
source code, but copyright holder does not permit it?
Most of the problems were that they incorrectly added their
copyrights where they legally could
not. I can imagine they would like to change the license, but that
is speculation on my part.
What is not speculation is that they cannot change the copyright
license.
So
as Bacula contributors and users, you would be within
your rights to feel very upset with Bareos, because they never
offered you the code they developed.
I have understood that all of their code is in Github. Isn't it
so?
You will need to ask Bareos if all their code is on Github since I
don't have
access to their company. At least the main source code is there.
I
assure that I will do all in my power to ensure that any
worthwhile features that Bareos implements will be implemented
in
Bacula, and most likely better integrated and more robust, and
where
possible with even more functionality and growth potential.
How would you do it? Would you port the features, possibly making
the code better?
Or
would you just code the features from scratch?
To keep the Bacula FSFE copyright clean, we will probably need to
code the
features from scratch. However, one must realize that when coding a
feature
in Bacula, if two people do the same thing, there could be a
substantial overlap
of the code since one would naturally use a lot of the internal
subroutines.
I'm sorry, but currently it seems there is some soap opera going
on between these 2 projects and it is just sad to watch. I really
do hope that it won't affect good ideas being spread between the 2
projects and also in the open etc.
What gives you the idea that there is a soap opera going on? And
what do you find sad?
Hopefully not something that I have done.
Certainly, if Bareos has good ideas, we will be very interested in
them as
I have already stated just above. They will clearly directly take
anything from
Bacula that they consider useful.
3.
Bacula Systems and the FSFE:
There are a number of points in the agreement, but probably the
most
important of all is that Bacula Systems has now put in writing
that it is
an Open Source company (at its heart), as it has always
proclaimed, and will
contribute all the Enterprise code it creates to the Bacula
Community code
base within at most a 5 year period.
So all the Bacula Enterprise features and plugins will ultimately
be open sourced?
Yes. Some such as our Oracle plugin will not be Open Sources since
it uses the Oracle API which
is proprietary. At the moment, this is the only exception I can
think of though.
Ie.
we would see the delta plugin and vSphere plugin as open-source
within 5 years counting from the point they were announced?
The answer is yes, but with the nuance that the time period for code
developed prior to the agreement
starts as of the agreement.
Does it also mean that these features, by worst case scenario, in
the open source version will always be 5 years behind the
Enterprise version?
Yes.
Do
you have any features in mind that you would make open sourced
within the shorter time-frame?
Yes we will probably make many available well before the 5 year
period (I would guess even most features).
I have a number of features in mind that we are internally agreed on
and others that we are
considering. The official announcement on what they are will
certainly be made at the Bacula Conference
or possibly earlier.
Best regards,
Kern
--
Silver
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