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Re: [Bacula-users] Tuning for large (millions of files) backups?

2010-11-01 01:19:00
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Tuning for large (millions of files) backups?
From: "Ondrej PLANKA (Ignum profile)" <ondrej.planka AT ignum DOT cz>
To: Henrik Johansen <henrik AT scannet DOT dk>
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:15:18 +0100
Thanks :)
Which type of MySQL storage engine are you using? MyISAM or InnoDB for 
large Bacula system?
Can you please copy/paste your MySQL configuration? I mean my.cnf file

Thanks, Ondrej.


Henrik Johansen napsal(a):
> 'Ondrej PLANKA (Ignum profile)' wrote:
>   
>> Hello Henrik,
>>
>> what are you using? MySQL?
>>     
>
> Yes - all our catalog servers run MySQL.
>
> I forgot to mention this in my last post - we are Bacula System
> customers and they have proved to very supportive and competent.
>
> If you are thinking about doing large scale backups with Bacula I can
> only encourage you to get a support subscription - it is worth every
> penny.
>
>
>   
>> Thanks, Ondrej.
>>
>> 'Mingus Dew' wrote:
>>     
>>> Henrik,
>>> Have you had any problems with slow queries during backup or restore
>>> jobs? I'm thinking about http://bugs.bacula.org/view.php?id=1472
>>> specifically, and considering that the bacula.File table already has 73
>>> million rows in it and I haven't even successfully ran the "big" job
>>> yet.
>>>       
>> Not really.
>>
>> We have several 10+ million file jobs - all run without problem (backup
>> and restore).
>>
>> I am aware of the fact that a lot of Bacula users run PG  ( Bacula
>> Systems also does recommend PG for larger setups ) but nevertheless
>> MySQL has served us very well so far.
>>
>>     
>>> Just curious as a fellow Solaris deployer...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shon
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Henrik Johansen
>>> <henrik AT scannet DOT dk<mailto:henrik AT scannet DOT dk <mailto:henrik AT 
>>> scannet DOT dk%3Cmailto:henrik AT scannet DOT dk>>> wrote:
>>> 'Mingus Dew' wrote:
>>> All,
>>> I am running Bacula 5.0.1 on Solaris 10 x86. I'm currently running
>>> MySQL 4.1.22 for the database server. I do plan on upgrading to a
>>> compatible version of MySQL 5, but migrating to PostgreSQL isn't an
>>> option at this time.
>>>
>>> I am trying to backup to tape a very large number of files for a
>>> client. While the data size is manageable at around 2TB, the number of
>>> files is incredibly large.
>>> The first of the jobs had 27 million files and initially failed because
>>> the batch table became "Full". I changed the myisam_data_pointer size
>>> to a value of 6 in the config.
>>>
>>> This job was then able to run successfully and did not take too long.
>>>
>>> I have another job which has 42 million files. I'm not sure what that
>>> equates to in rows that need to be inserted, but I can say that I've
>>> not been able to successfully run the job, as it seems to hang for
>>> over 30 hours in a "Dir inserting attributes" status. This causes
>>> other jobs to backup in the queue and once canceled I have to restart
>>> Bacula.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for way to boost performance of MySQL or Bacula (or both)
>>> to get this job completed.
>>>
>>> You *really* need to upgrade to MySQL 5 and change to InnoDB - there is no
>>> way in hell that MySQL 4 + MyISAM is going to perform decent in your
>>> situation.
>>> Solaris 10 is a Tier 1 platform for MySQL so the latest versions are
>>> always available from http://www.mysql.com in the native pkg format so 
>>> there really
>>> is no excuse.
>>>
>>> We run our Bacula Catalog MySQl servers on Solaris (OpenSolaris) so
>>> perhaps I can give you some pointers.
>>>
>>> Our smallest Bacula DB is currently ~70 GB (381,230,610 rows).
>>>
>>> Since you are using Solaris 10 I assume that you are going to run MySQL
>>> off ZFS - in that case you need to adjust the ZFS recordsize for the
>>> filesystem that is going to hold your InnoDB datafiles to match the
>>> InnoDB block size.
>>>
>>> If you are using ZFS you should also consider getting yourself a fast
>>> SSD as a SLOG (or to disable the ZIL entirely if you dare) - all InnoDB
>>> writes to datafiles are O_SYNC and benefit *greatly* from an SSD in
>>> terms of write / transaction speed.
>>>
>>> If you have enough CPU power to spare you should try turning on
>>> compression for the ZFS filesystem holding the datafiles - it also can
>>> accelerate DB writes / reads but YMMV.
>>>
>>> Lastly, our InnoDB related configuration from my.cnf :
>>>
>>> # InnoDB options skip-innodb_doublewrite
>>> innodb_data_home_dir = /tank/db/
>>> innodb_log_group_home_dir = /tank/logs/
>>> innodb_support_xa = false
>>> innodb_file_per_table = true
>>> innodb_buffer_pool_size = 20G
>>> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit = 2
>>> innodb_log_buffer_size = 128M
>>> innodb_log_file_size = 512M
>>> innodb_log_files_in_group = 2
>>> innodb_max_dirty_pages_pct = 90
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Shon
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