Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] Mail Server Incremental Backup size of full backup

2008-09-05 05:29:00
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Mail Server Incremental Backup size of full backup
From: Alberto Rial <rial AT ardan DOT es>
To: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:28:01 +0430
Hemant Shah escribió:
--- On Wed, 9/3/08, Alberto Rial <rial AT ardan DOT es> wrote:

  
From: Alberto Rial <rial AT ardan DOT es>
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Mail Server Incremental Backup size of full backup
To: "Mark Nienberg" <gmane AT tippingmar DOT com>
Cc: bacula-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 2:13 AM
Mark Nienberg escribió:
    
Alberto Rial wrote:
  
      
     I have a mail server running Debian 4.0 and
        
bacula version  
    
2.2.8-8~bpo40+1 installed from debian backports.
        
The mail server runs 
    
postfix + courier-imap and size of full backup
        
it´s 108 Gb aprox.
    
    I´ve got a lot of machines on the network who
        
are been backed up 
    
succesfully, but the mail server sometimes when
        
run a incremental 
    
backup, it´s seems to be an incremental but
        
bacula copy all data like in 
    
a full.
    
        
If you store your mail messages in traditional unix
      
mbox format then any new messages 
    
or deleted messages for one user will change the mbox
      
file for that user and the 
    
backup will include all of that user's mail (since
      
it is all in one file).
    
To get true incremental backups for user mailboxes you
      
would need to use one of the 
    
formats that stores messages as individual files, like
      
Maildir.
    
Is that the problem or do you already use Maildir
      
format?
    
Mark Nienberg



      
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I´m aleady using Maildir format...  Some of the
incremental backups runs 
fine (about 700 Mb of daily changes) while some of them
(generally 
sunday night incremental) has the same size that a full
backup (about 
108 gb). If I delete this backup (Incremental with full
size) next 
backup size will be 108 gb, if i don´t delete it next
backup runs fine 
(about 700 mb).

Thanks.


Alberto Rial.
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It looks like some process that runs on Sunday changes ctime of the files. I had similar problem where my old backup system (Veritas NetBackup) and bacula were running together for few months and Veritas would change ctime of the file because it was resetting the atime of the file and bacula would back it up even though it did not change. Many of my incremental backups were the size of full backup.




Hemant Shah
E-mail: hjrrs AT yahoo DOT com



      
  

Mmm I was looking if some process changed ctime of files but i didnt find anything.  I The atime (access time) changes  becouse it´s an IMAP e-mail server, users access their mail from their desktops but it´s stored on mail server.  It´s not a procces on sunday, becouse it happens sometimes, take a look at a resume of backups of e-mail server:
Terminated Jobs:
 JobId  Level     Files         Bytes  Status   Finished        Name
======================================================================
  4187  Incr    695,641 107,892,462,347 OK       27-ago-08 07:04 mail
  4312  Incr     16,515    411,294,291 OK       27-ago-08 23:20 mail
  4421  Incr     17,640    410,300,655 OK       29-ago-08 00:21 mail
  4524  Full    698,476 108,204,208,184 OK       31-ago-08 02:34 mail
  4533  Incr    697,872 108,199,519,284 OK       31-ago-08 11:25 mail
  4542  Incr    187,939 13,029,677,742 OK       01-sep-08 00:00 mail
  4668  Incr    697,746 108,169,211,334 OK       02-sep-08 07:17 mail
  4794  Incr    698,008 108,197,912,954 OK       03-sep-08 07:25 mail
  4919  Incr      8,921    511,619,657 OK       03-sep-08 23:21 mail
  5028  Incr     18,304    530,161,167 OK       04-sep-08 23:21 mail
====

Sometimes works fine and sometimes not. I´m lost in configuration :P


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