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Re: [BackupPC-users] Anyone with experience of MS-SQL database dumps?

2009-08-30 16:17:27
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Anyone with experience of MS-SQL database dumps?
From: "Jeffrey J. Kosowsky" <backuppc AT kosowsky DOT org>
To: "General list for user discussion, questions and support" <backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:13:40 -0400
dan wrote at about 14:00:43 -0600 on Sunday, August 30, 2009:
 > I personally think that using ssh compression is the better method.  I say
 > this because running rsync through ssh encrypts the data and compresses
 > it(optionally).  Unless you plan to run rsync in the clear then the built in
 > compression isnt needed.

ssh adds overhead with its encryption. Of course, I was referring to
the case when you are comfortable running rsync/rsyncd in the clear.

 > 
 > 
 > On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Jeffrey J. Kosowsky <backuppc AT kosowsky 
 > DOT org
 > > wrote:
 > 
 > > Les Mikesell wrote at about 07:37:07 -0500 on Tuesday, August 25, 2009:
 > >  > Nigel Kendrick wrote:
 > >  > > Hi,
 > >  > >
 > >  > > This may also be applicable to MySQL etc..
 > >  > >
 > >  > > I have an MS-SQL database that dumps out a backup that's around 700MB
 > > in
 > >  > > size. BackupPC brought this over to its server via ADSL/VPN/Rsyncd
 > >  > > (422mins!) and when I did another data dump about 4 hours later,
 > > around
 > >  > > 16Mb of changes to the file were transferred very quickly. However,
 > >  > > every single backup since then has gone back to 422 minutes. I could
 > >  > > imagine that the database and dump will change over time, but it seems
 > >  > > strange that the entire file needs copying every time - as if its
 > >  > > structure is always 100% different from the previous.
 > >  > >
 > >  > > I wondered if I was missing anything obvious (being a BackupPC noob)
 > >  > > like file time stamping causing a complete file transfer every day, or
 > >  > > are database dumps likely to be completely different every time?
 > >  > >
 > >  > > I will keep some copies of the dumps and do some comparisons but in
 > > the
 > >  > > meantime any tips, thoughts etc.?
 > >  >
 > >  > I don't know anything about the contents of the file, but are these full
 > > or
 > >  > incremental runs for backuppc?   Assuming this is rsync or rsyncd, note
 > > that
 > >  > incrementals always compare against the last full unless you have
 > > configured
 > >  > multiple incremental levels, so they tend to transfer more each time.
 > >  Or there
 > >  > may just be enough difference that it can't find the matching parts.
 > >  >
 > >  > If you are running rsync with ssh (probably not if this is windows), you
 > > might
 > >  > save some time by adding the -C option for ssh compression.  If transfer
 > > time is
 > >  >   important, it might be worth setting up a scheduled rsync command to
 > > copy to
 > >  > something on the network local to the backuppc server so you could use
 > > the -z
 > >  > option (which backuppc doesn't support), then have backuppc pick up that
 > > copy to
 > >  > keep the history.  Or, if rsync isn't finding matching parts anyway
 > > perhaps you
 > >  > could compress the file before the transfer.
 > >
 > > Just out of curiosity, are there any plans to have rsync within
 > > Backuppc recognize the -z (compression) flag?
 > >
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