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Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
2004-08-18 13:03:07
The problem isn't amanda, its with dump (and Linus' hate of the program!)
nocomp doesn't make a difference, apart from using more tape to store
the results.
your could make sure you use a 'dump-type' that specifies to use tar
with no issues..with or without compression.
--
Martin Hepworth
Snr Systems Administrator
Solid State Logic
Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300
Ranveer Attalia wrote:
Interesting....
We are currently using version 2.4.4 p1. Is the Linux ext3 file type
supported on a later version of Amanda where I can use the dumptype
nocomp?
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Scheeder [mailto:christoph.scheeder AT scheeder DOT de]
Sent: 18 August 2004 12:56
To: Ranveer Attalia
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
Hi,
If they are working, you can leave them. But i don't trust dump at all,
so i use tar for all my partitions.
So i would sugest switching them to tar, especialy as it gives you more
flexibility when it comes to restoring a crashed machine/disk.
If you used Dump to do the backups you should restore them to the same
type of filesystem they came from.
If you use tar, you even can restore them on a different OS onto a
completly different filesystem.
In short: tar gives you more flexibility.
But thats all my personal view, you'll have to decide what to do on your
own.
Christoph
Ranveer Attalia schrieb:
excellent - thanks just needed confirmation on that (new user) ok, so
I am confused, currently I have only changed over about 3 partitions
on my linux machine (tsslin1) to use root-tar dumptype. All the rest
are still using nocomp. But all other partitions appear to be working.
Does this mean that I can leave those partitions using nocomp dumptype
well alone? (ie: if its not broken dont fix it scenario)
- Ranveer
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Scheeder [mailto:christoph.scheeder AT scheeder DOT de]
Sent: 18 August 2004 12:36
To: Ranveer Attalia
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
Shurely,
amrecover does feed the needed parameters to tar for you.
Christoph
Ranveer Attalia schrieb:
Thanks for the replies.
One more question. If am using the dumptype root-tar, can I just use
an amrecover as normal to restore any files?
Thanks
- Ranveer
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Scheeder [mailto:christoph.scheeder AT scheeder DOT de]
Sent: 18 August 2004 08:31
To: gene.heskett AT verizon DOT net
Cc: amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
Hi,
i don't recall when it went in, but AFAIK it was 1 subrelease after
the point where a missing exclude-file began to get treated as an
error....
;-) Perhaps its mentioned somewhere in a changelog.
Christoph
Gene Heskett schrieb:
On Tuesday 17 August 2004 04:19, Christoph Scheeder wrote:
Hi,
first sorry for the delay in answering.
The exclude-list option gives the path to a text-file containig
patterns which describe what files should be excluded from the
backup.
mine contains lines like
./core
./*.tmp
./*~
etc the "./" at the start is required, without it won't work.
you'll have to create one meeting your requirements or, as Gene
already pointed out, you can remove this line from the dumptype
definition, or you can modify it to read:
exclude list optional "/path/to/your/exclude-list"
which makes it an optional file, and amanda will work with or
without
it and stop complaining if it does not exist.
Christoph
At what tarball version did that 'optional' get built in? He may, if
a beginner, be trying to use an (spit) rpm. I don't know, either I
wasn't paying enough attention, or he didn't say.
Ranveer Attalia schrieb:
Hi Christoph
I've found the GNUTAR dumptype and changed the partition which was
failing to backup:
FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
tsslin1 /export/mansun1_telco lev 0 FAILED [data timeout]
Amanda.conf:
define dumptype root-tar {
global
program "GNUTAR"
comment "root partitions dumped with tar"
compress none
index
exclude list "/usr/local/lib/amanda/exclude.gtar"
priority low
}
Disklist data:
#TSSLIN1
tsslin1 / nocomp
tsslin1 /boot nocomp
tsslin1 /usr nocomp
tsslin1 /var nocomp
tsslin1 /opt nocomp
tsslin1 /databases nocomp
tsslin1 /export/home nocomp
tsslin1 /export/mansun1_tss nocomp
tsslin1 /export/mansun1_telco root-tar
When I run an amcheck Daily -C tsslin1, I get the following error.
Problem is, the exclude.gtar file doesnt actually exist on the
server.. Can this just be downloaded?
Amanda Backup Client Hosts Check
--------------------------------
ERROR: tsslin1: [Can't open exclude file
'/usr/local/lib/amanda/exclude.gtar': No such file or directory]
Client check: 1 host checked in 0.095 seconds, 1 problem found
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Scheeder [mailto:christoph.scheeder AT scheeder DOT de]
Sent: 13 August 2004 11:24
To: Ranveer Attalia
Cc: amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
Hi,
yes you can, go to your amanda.conf:
have a look at the defined dumptypes at the bottom of it, an check
if
one meets your requirements. in the example-amanda.conf there are
some dumptypes defined using tar. if none meets your requirements
create a new one including the line
programm "GNUTAR"
which tells amanda to use tar as backup-program.
then edit your disklist setting the disks in question to use this
dumptype.
now run amcheck to make shure the needed files and directorys for
tar
exist. If it complains about something fix it and you should be
fine
for the next run.
Christoph
Ranveer Attalia schrieb:
Thanks for getting back to me
The filesystem version we are using is ext3. Can I run a tar using
Amanda, so it doesnt interfere with the filesystem versions? How
would
I go about doign that?
Would a separate config and disklist need to be created?
By the way, we dont have a firewall issue because these machines
(servers & clients) are completely independant of any connection
via
the firewall.
Thanks
- Ranveer
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gene.heskett AT verizon DOT net]
Sent: 12 August 2004 18:04
To: Ranveer Attalia
Cc: Christoph Scheeder; amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
On Thursday 12 August 2004 12:08, Ranveer Attalia wrote:
Yes tsslin1 is a linux machine and no there was no finishing line
on sendbackup, but I have another linux machine that is working
fine with
the same version of amanda client on it. What do you mean by
ext2/3 ?
The question is what filesystem version you are using? We're
assuming
that its ext2, with the journalling laid on top which is then
called
ext3. Dump would care, tar would not.
- Ranveer
DUMP SUMMARY:
DUMPER STATS TAPER
STATS
HOSTNAME DISK L ORIG-KB OUT-KB COMP% MMM:SS KB/s
MMM:SS KB/s
-------------------------- ---------------------------------
------------
pedlinux1 / 1 64770 64770 -- 11:37 93.0
0:106639.1
pedlinux1 /boot 1 10 10 -- 0:02 4.1
0:00 34.9
-----Original Message-----
From: Christoph Scheeder [mailto:christoph.scheeder AT scheeder DOT de]
Sent: 12 August 2004 16:57
To: Ranveer Attalia
Cc: amanda-users AT amanda DOT org
Subject: Re: data timeout - no replies...anyone???
Hi,
That is all what your sendbackup.debug file contains?
no line telling dump reached 100% ?
and no finishing line from sendbackup?
Then your dump-process is dying whitout message after 43.03% of
the
Backup.
am i correct that this is a linux-box?
then i would recomend switching to tar for the backup's, as dump
for ext2/3 is known to be problematic with active (mounted)
filesystems. Christoph
Something Chhristoph wrote triggerd another fading memory. If
there
is a firewall involved, and the ports were opened ok, but the
firewall
see's no activity to 'keep-alive' within a certain time, it closed
the
ports. This happened to another user at least a year ago IIRC. I
believe the cure was to extend the autoclosure timeing in the
firewall
rules.
And I concur with Christoph regarding dump. Tar worked better for
me,
and it usually gives sensible error messages when it doesn't. But
tar
versions vary too, and historicly we have been recommending only
version
1.13-19 or 1.13-25. There is an even newer version extant, but I
can't recall if anyone here on this list has said it works
correctly
or not.
--
Cheers, Gene
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