I agree but the point/thing that is gained would be less problems and no
SOX violations due to errors we have to investigate, it is problematic to
back it up on some hosts and fixing it takes a lot of time for something
that has never been needed once.
Justin.
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:
> That hasn't been my experience. If you configure a drive F: and there
> isn't an F:, you get a job that fails with "no such drive." I don't
> like failures.
>
> My opinion is that ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES is a good thing, and backing up an
> extra GB or too is a small price to pay. The risk of what happens when
> you DON'T use it outweighs the value you're gaining by skipping those
> few GB. 200 clients backing up 2 extra GB = one tape ($75). Big deal.
> Not having a backup for a drive you need because you forgot to include
> it? That's a whole lot more than $75. That could be an RPE (resume
> producing event).
>
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Conner,
> Neil
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:39 PM
> To: Justin Piszcz
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
> fromALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>
> Don't use ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES then.
>
> Specify C: D: E: ... instead. List all the drives possibly in use for
> all the clients in the policy - clients with fewer drives configured
> won't complain.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Justin
> Piszcz
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:24 PM
> To: Curtis Preston
> Cc: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
> edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
> from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>
> Already tried to exclude Shadow Copy Components:\ and System_State:\ no
> go
> for either, its not needed in my environment, is 1-3GB and sometimes
> causes failures with various clients, its a waste of time/resources and
> it
> will never be needed. I have never had any luck excluding it though.
>
>
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:
>
>> OH! That's not what you said...
>>
>> So you want an exclude pattern to exclude the registry. Not sure if
> you
>> can do that.
>>
>> Another question is: why? It's not that big.
>>
>> ---
>> W. Curtis Preston
>> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Justin Piszcz [mailto:jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 3:20 PM
>> To: Curtis Preston
>> Cc: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
>> edu
>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
>> from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>
>> I want to exclude the registry backup for all Windows Backups.
>>
>> Justin.
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Curtis Preston wrote:
>>
>>> But don't you WANT shadow copy to run? It's now the official way to
>> get
>>> a stable image of a running drive, right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What extra stuff is getting backed up that you want to exclude,
>> Justin?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> W. Curtis Preston
>>>
>>> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
>>>
>>> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>> [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:04 PM
>>> To: Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components
>>> from ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shadow Copy Components:\ will not be backed up if Volume Shadow Copy
>>> service is disabled.
>>>
>>> With ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES as backup selection, NetBackup calls the VSC
>>> service to create the Shadow Copy Components:\. When the service is
>>> disabled, Shadow Copy Components:\ cannot be created therefore it is
>> not
>>> backed up.
>>>
>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>> Recovery Administrator
>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>> 304-554-5926
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared M Seaton/MGW/MYLAN
>>>
>>> 07/24/2007 04:52 PM
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
>>>
>>> cc
>>>
>>> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> Subject
>>>
>>> Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from
>>> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?Link
>>>
>>
> <Notes://LNMAIL2/852571D90071ABBB/DABA975B9FB113EB852564B5001283EA/D686E
>>> 1FAEBB4D5F08525732200724BAB>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There will be no errors for the backup job, but in the Event Viewer
>> you
>>> will see an error that Volume Shadow Copy service was trying to start
>>> but that it is disabled and cannot start.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>> Recovery Administrator
>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>> 304-554-5926
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Justin Piszcz" <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
>>> Sent by: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> 07/24/2007 04:48 PM
>>>
>>> To
>>>
>>> Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com
>>>
>>> cc
>>>
>>> veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
>>>
>>> Subject
>>>
>>> Re: [Veritas-bu] Possible to exclude Shadow Copy Components from
>>> ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Will that fail backups or will it skip the Shadow Copy Components?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Jared.Seaton AT mylanlabs DOT com wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could completely disable the Volume Shadow Copy service on the
>>> Windows
>>>> client if you don't want Shadow Copy Components:\
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We set ALL_LOCAL_DRIVES for all of our Windows hosts and let the
>>>> Windows
>>>>>> ADMINS take care of the include/exclude list and then it can be
>>> changed
>>>> on
>>>>>> their side whenever necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to EXCLUDE the Shadow Copy Components?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> https://forums.symantec.com/syment/board/message?board.id=21&message.id=
>>> 33230
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying this now but it appears it might not work with a 5.1MP4
>>>>> client?
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone here get this working with 5.1MP4?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jared M. Seaton
>>>> Recovery Administrator
>>>> Mylan Laboratories Inc.
>>>> 304-554-5926
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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